1957-D Doubled Dies

[ray_parkhurst]

When I went through a bunch of 57-D rolls a while back, I found quite a few of the LIBERTY doubled dies. I was able to attribute most of them, but a few eluded me. I just pulled them out, and checked the latest VV and Wexler pages to be sure I was up to date. I found that VV has a new(er) listing of DDO-013, and one of my findings matched! Good news, one down.

Interestingly, a quick overlay of the DDO-013 with another DDO I found showed an apparent match, but this DDO was an earlier die state than the ones shown on VV, which have die chips in the date. This one is clean in the date area, and is EMDS. I plan to do a full overlay comparison to see if this is an earlier/unlisted stage of DDO-013.

Now I am left with 3 coins that I can't find listed in VV or Wexler. I plan to do full high resolution images of these and that should aid in identification. Will post here when they are available, stay tuned.

[VAB2013]

One down and three to go! Sounds like fun! It's always fun when we get to see your awesome photos, so we are looking forward to it! There are a couple of Liberty DD's on Coppercoins that don't have a Wexler or Variety Vista cross over, we are happy to help!

[ray_parkhurst]

OK, I shot the first DDO using Stack and Stitch system, and it came out very nice. I was not able to attribute this coin initially since the markers were not consistent with the references. But once I had the high res photo and could look the coin over very carefully and at my leisure, I think I figured out what it is...an early die state of 1DO-014/DDO-005. Some of the markers just aren't there, and I think the reverse die was changed, but there is a unique marker present (that I missed on CC before) that I think clinches it. Take a look here, and let me know what you think:

https://easyzoom.com/image/130230

[stoneman227]

The die gouge near the lapel seals it. What a wonderful and I'm sure time consuming tool for attributing. Congrats !

John

[makecents]

OK, I shot the first DDO using Stack and Stitch system, and it came out very nice. I was not able to attribute this coin initially since the markers were not consistent with the references. But once I had the high res photo and could look the coin over very carefully and at my leisure, I think I figured out what it is...an early die state of 1DO-014/DDO-005. Some of the markers just aren't there, and I think the reverse die was changed, but there is a unique marker present (that I missed on CC before) that I think clinches it. Take a look here, and let me know what you think:

https://easyzoom.com/image/130230

You da Man Ray!! You don't need our help!! Fantastic pics as always!

[VAB2013]

Awesome Stack and Stitch and a very nice looking doubled die! That rectangular die gouge between the forehead and the hair line is an interesting die marker! Do we get to see the other ones?

[ray_parkhurst]

Thanks all for positive comments and input. I'm hooked now on this method of documenting and attributing. It's not that much more work than shooting and processing many detail shots, and it results in much more visibility of the entire coin surface.

What did you all think of the reverse. Has it been changed from this stage to the later stages?

Do we get to see the other ones?

Further examination of the first coin showed it was DDO-001 with a hit on the date that obscured the doubling there. Ouch.

So I'm left with just one more to image and share. I'll do that next day or two, so "don't touch that dial".

[VAB2013]

Ray, I think yours is a Stage A because there's some die damage showing up at Stage B on Lincoln's neck that is not showing on yours. So my guess is EDS, EMDS. Not really sure about the reverse dies being changed, seems like I see similar die scratches on your reverse compared to Coppercoins MDS reverse (especially the right wheat stalk).

It's cool to see the concentric die scratches on the obverse of your DD! Love that Stack and Stitch! Can't wait to see the next one!

[stoneman227]

Ray , the reverse die may be the same.
There is a diagonal die scratch in the left inside corner of the T of Cent of your coin and what seems to be a remnant of the same scratch on the CC example.

John

[ray_parkhurst]

OK, seems the reverse die is probably the same. Not sure why I thought it might be different! Still no pics of the last DDO, probably tomorrow...

[ray_parkhurst]

I shot my last unattributed DDO, and it is for sure less dramatic than the others. It shows weakly only on T and Y, and possibly a bit on the 1. Here is the coin for perusal and comment:

https://easyzoom.com/image/130378

[makecents]

Found a couple close ones but no dice... Very nice images Ray!!

[mustbebob]

There are a couple of these that have been determined to be too minor to list. They have to be at least in the condition of yours to be seen. This one is not listed.

[ray_parkhurst]

There are a couple of these that have been determined to be too minor to list. They have to be at least in the condition of yours to be seen. This one is not listed.

Thanks Bob. This one is clearly quite minor and any wear would obscure the details on high points required to see the DDO at all.

[hyf88]

Wow, those pictures are absolutely amazing!!