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  • dinkyblue
    Member
    • May 2015
    • 1285

    #1

    1974 S RPM

    There is only one of this date listed, and I think this could be the one. Please have a look and confirm my suspicion .........................dinkyblue
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  • VAB2013
    Forum Ambassador
    • Nov 2013
    • 12351

    #2
    I think it's a "yes" Dan! Lower split looks good, mint mark positioning looks good, die flow lines look good, can't say for 100% sure on the die gouge at the face but it's probably right on! Hope I'm right and you are too! Congrats!

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    • dinkyblue
      Member
      • May 2015
      • 1285

      #3
      I thought there is a lot of die ware and it's hard to see any markers, but as you stated die flow lines look good, the split on the bottom of the mint mark and the position look right even though the MM took a hit. Thank you for your attribution..................Dan

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      • VAB2013
        Forum Ambassador
        • Nov 2013
        • 12351

        #4
        You are welcome Dan! Let's see what the guys think, but I believe you are right. How bizarre that this is the only listed RPM for 1974S small date.

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        • jfines69
          Paid Member

          • Jun 2010
          • 28588

          #5
          Nice find Dan... The MM position looks good as does the split in the lower serif... The circ wear on the date/mm makes it a little difficult tho... Can you try getting the abrasions around the date and MM a little better??? Also the chip on the rev looks close but I think the abrasions around the finials on the roof may be a better way to match due to the circ wear??? Don't forget there is a doubled MM punch on the 74Ss also http://varietyvista.com/Doubled%20Mi...f%201974-S.htm so we need to look at that!!!
          Jim
          (A.K.A. Elmer Fudd) Be verwy verwy quiet... I'm hunting coins!!! Good Hunting!!!

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          • dinkyblue
            Member
            • May 2015
            • 1285

            #6
            Here are a couple of photos, this is as good as it going to get for some reason there is a lot of distortion on this coin, had to use a sharpening tool to get it clearer..................................Dan
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            • VAB2013
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              • Nov 2013
              • 12351

              #7
              Nice close ups Dan! Jim... I was just re-reading Dr. Wiles info on this and I didn't see any information on the RPMP having a split in the lower serif at any stage. Did I miss it?

              Here is Dr. Wiles article http://varietyvista.com/Doubled%20Mi...f%201974-S.htm

              and here is a close up of the MMS-009 Doubled Mint Mark Punch (scroll down some) http://varietyvista.com/01b%20LC%20D...k%20Styles.htm
              Last edited by VAB2013; 01-17-2019, 11:34 AM.

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              • willbrooks
                Die & Design Expert, LCF Glossary Author

                • Jan 2012
                • 9472

                #8
                Originally posted by VAB2013
                Nice close ups Dan! Jim... I was just re-reading Dr. Wiles info on this and I didn't see any information on the RPMP having a split in the lower serif at any stage. Did I miss it?

                Here is Dr. Wiles article http://varietyvista.com/Doubled%20Mi...f%201974-S.htm

                and here is a close up of the MMS-009 Doubled Mint Mark Punch (scroll down some) http://varietyvista.com/01b%20LC%20D...k%20Styles.htm
                Ray and I just published an article about this in the November Coin World monthly. No, the defective punch does not exhibit this split in the lower serif. This does look like coppercoin's 1mm-001, which I confirmed in the article as a legitimate RPM. Nice find. The other variety listings do not list this variety. I was thinking about sending my example in to Wiles along with the article, but I'm too lazy.
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                • dinkyblue
                  Member
                  • May 2015
                  • 1285

                  #9
                  Thank you for confirming this 1974 S sd RPM 1MM-001. You might recall on 07/14/2017 I posted three 1974S coins, I thought at that time one of them was an RPM and I sent them in to be looked at. Turned out none of them were RPMs, here are the pic's. Number one is the RPMP, also I was wondering what the rarity on these are.................Dan
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                  Last edited by dinkyblue; 01-18-2019, 10:35 AM.

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                  • VAB2013
                    Forum Ambassador
                    • Nov 2013
                    • 12351

                    #10
                    Thank you very much Will for confirming this and also for your Coin World article along with Ray's great photography! I remember the article, but could not remember the detail on the lower serif having a split or not! Congrats Dan, fourth time is your lucky charm!

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                    • dinkyblue
                      Member
                      • May 2015
                      • 1285

                      #11
                      I learned what to look for on these sometimes confusing 1974 S sd penny's the RPM is hard to determine if you don't know about the RPMP or defective punch. Not a whole lot to look through as there in only one listing on coppercoins and none anywhere else. Maybe the other sites need to upgrade a little. In 1973 the mint was going to replace the 1974 penny with an aluminum alloy one but decided not too. Thank you for your thoughts and support......................Dan
                      Last edited by dinkyblue; 01-18-2019, 10:57 AM.

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                      • jfines69
                        Paid Member

                        • Jun 2010
                        • 28588

                        #12
                        Awesome... Confirmed by Will... Thanks!!!
                        Jim
                        (A.K.A. Elmer Fudd) Be verwy verwy quiet... I'm hunting coins!!! Good Hunting!!!

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