1960 D LD DDO or not?

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  • VAB2013
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    • Nov 2013
    • 12351

    #16
    Great info Ed! Jon... like it or not we are going to have to either study more or try to get more info out of Ed every chance we get! Thank you Ed!

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    • makecents
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      • Jun 2017
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      #17
      Originally posted by GrumpyEd
      1960 is sort of interesting. The experts say the mint changed to the LD because of chipping in the dates on the SDs.
      The odd thing to me is I haven't seen many 1960 SDs with a filled 0 so how could that have been such a big shop stopper that made them start over and go through the effort to change to the LD? Then the LD seems to be plagued with this issue on the date but they didn't see that as a problem yet I see messed up dates like this on lots of LDs, it seems they had more issues than the SDs.
      Then on top of that, why did the SDs have so many of those tilted die clashes and why would going to the LD have solved that?

      A lot of studying was done on the SDs and the tilted clashes and the reasoning of why the change to LD was done. But it seems they didn't talk much about this issue with cracking dates on LD.

      My simpleton thought is, the mint had some other problem that was making the dies crack around the dates, sure it might be easier to crack of the center nub on a small date 0 but the problem wasn't the small date, there was some other problem making them prone to crack in that area.

      And the other odd thing is, it's not extreme in 56 or 58-59 or 61-on but if you look at 57 cents, they had a similar issue and often had a similar crack pattern in the 9 and often progressed to be partly filled.

      Interesting article on the 60s:

      http://www.error-ref.com/the-mysteri...-lincoln-cent/
      Thank you Ed!! A very good read but will need to go back and read again tomorrow. If I were to throw a dart, it would be at the heart of managerial changes during that timeframe. Don't even know if that is possible or even should be done for political or other reasons but that is where I would start if it bothered me.

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      • makecents
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        • Jun 2017
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        #18
        Originally posted by VAB2013
        Great info Ed! Jon... like it or not we are going to have to either study more or try to get more info out of Ed every chance we get! Thank you Ed!
        I would agree wholeheartedly Viv!! Both would be in order.

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        • makecents
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          • Jun 2017
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          #19
          I forgot to ad, the last pic was a P mint and not a D mint like my original post.

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          • Rowdyricster
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            • Feb 2019
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            #20
            I have enjoyed reading this thread, but you guys are light-years ahead of me. So much knowledge...in this thread alone. I'm so glad I found yinz!!!

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            • makecents
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              • Jun 2017
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              #21
              Originally posted by Rowdyricster
              I have enjoyed reading this thread, but you guys are light-years ahead of me. So much knowledge...in this thread alone. I'm so glad I found yinz!!!
              Pay attention to the folks helping me here Rowdy!! I do not say that lightly, I really mean it. There are so many knowledgeable folks here, if you just take time to listen and I believe you do. It is a lot to take in and most, like me cannot all at once. It takes me time but does sink in and I have to read and re-read things to finally get a good understanding. For me, the easiest way to actually learn is hands on though, after a time or two with dealing with the same thing, it's mine for life. I am not good with books and literature....

              I like it Rowdy!! Yinz!! Will has made some monsters on this forum!!
              Last edited by makecents; 03-28-2019, 06:07 PM.

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              • Rowdyricster
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                • Feb 2019
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                #22
                Yeah, I'm the same. I have to read and re-read, but nothing beats hands-on learning. Thanks for the encouragement!!

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                • jfines69
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                  • Jun 2010
                  • 28848

                  #23
                  Cool looking coin... Could it be a form of MD??? On the Y of LIBERTY the east arm looks like the normal MD started but for some reason stopped... The date looks like the die slid upwards and displaced some metal rolling it up onto the entire date... It all appears to be in the same direction as the Y, mostly due west??? The 60P looks to be to the WSW??? Id there anything else on the 60P???
                  Jim
                  (A.K.A. Elmer Fudd) Be verwy verwy quiet... I'm hunting coins!!! Good Hunting!!!

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                  • makecents
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                    • Jun 2017
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                    #24
                    Originally posted by jfines69
                    Cool looking coin... Could it be a form of MD??? On the Y of LIBERTY the east arm looks like the normal MD started but for some reason stopped... The date looks like the die slid upwards and displaced some metal rolling it up onto the entire date... It all appears to be in the same direction as the Y, mostly due west??? The 60P looks to be to the WSW??? Id there anything else on the 60P???
                    Thanks for checking it out Jim!! Check out post #8, Ed lined me out on this one! As for the 60P, it is in a pile of copper but I don't think it showed anything else, I looked it over pretty good.

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                    • jfines69
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                      • Jun 2010
                      • 28848

                      #25
                      Originally posted by makecents
                      Thanks for checking it out Jim!! Check out post #8, Ed lined me out on this one! As for the 60P, it is in a pile of copper but I don't think it showed anything else, I looked it over pretty good.
                      It shows up as #9 on my screen??? #8 is Viviens comments??? No idea why but my browser parses the web pages slightly different... Guess I'm just strange or my pain meds are really messing with my mind Thanks for the follow up!!!
                      Jim
                      (A.K.A. Elmer Fudd) Be verwy verwy quiet... I'm hunting coins!!! Good Hunting!!!

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                      • makecents
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                        • Jun 2017
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                        #26
                        Originally posted by jfines69
                        It shows up as #9 on my screen??? #8 is Viviens comments??? No idea why but my browser parses the web pages slightly different... Guess I'm just strange or my pain meds are really messing with my mind Thanks for the follow up!!!
                        That's odd. I don't think this is the first time we've been through this with the post numbers. But it has only been you that I remember this with!! Your just special Jim!!

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                        • jfines69
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                          • Jun 2010
                          • 28848

                          #27
                          Originally posted by makecents
                          That's odd. I don't think this is the first time we've been through this with the post numbers. But it has only been you that I remember this with!! Your just special Jim!!
                          My wife and kids says the same thing so I must be special
                          Jim
                          (A.K.A. Elmer Fudd) Be verwy verwy quiet... I'm hunting coins!!! Good Hunting!!!

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