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This is indeed an RPM (not RPS) and it comes from the San Francisco mint. This one is RPM-002 known as the S over Horizontal S. Great variety! These are great pictures also. Well done!Bob Piazza
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What grade would you guess it to be?Comment
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Congrats Jdubbs! Great picking! Awesome looking RPM and very nice photos to! Geez... you are fast, I just typed the post to see if you wanted to move your thread and you had already done it!
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I'm getting the hang of this site and thank you viv. So I did pretty good on this one?Comment
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Strange. The reverse is very nice, but the bust has significant wear. It looks too red for something with that much wear. And no luster. I wonder if it may have been cleaned. The good news is that the variety shows very crisply. As for the price, this is one of those varieties that really "shouldn't" command a premium, as this die is actually the most prevalent of all of the 1909S dies.All opinions expressed are not necessarily shared by willbrooks or his affiliates. Taking them may result in serious side effects. Results may vary. Offer not valid in New Jersey.Comment
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I thought it was, you could even see it in the big pics in the other thread.
It does a few things, for one it proves the coin is real!
It is a CPG listed coin so it could get the CPG number/attribution on a holder if you ever paid for it.
Since there are not a ton of dies used for 09-S it does not add a ton of value.
What I notice is in higher grades like unc it can add little value (but it's a wildcard, if someone wants the RPM they would buy it over a normal one) but in lower grades it still adds some value especially if it's noted on the holder. Still a neat variety, there are not many other S over horizontal S.
I think the color is ok but hard to tell from the pics. It might be the toning is sort of thin and it looks more reddish in photos than in hand. Could be from an old cleaning but depending how it looks in hand it might only be thin. From the bigger pics it looks like it would grade.
Other thread: http://www.lincolncentforum.com/foru...e-date-on-year
It shows well, great example of it!Comment
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To me the coin is Fine/Fine+. = Grey sheet Fine 12 = $70.00 the variety only adds at best 15% +10.50 = $80.50. Sorry but from a coin dealer perspective I wouldn't have paid any where near $130. Sorry..
This is why I hate e-bay. Way over priced coinsComment
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Thanks jfines, much appreciatedComment
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As far as price goes, I think it was not a good or bad deal. More like at the high end of retail. Sort of hard to grade because the rev is better than the obv.
I sold a similar one, no RPM sort of similar but it had a better obv than rev and maybe a very old cleaning and got $90 for it.
To dealer $130 is too high, it's high retail so they will be lucky to get their $130 back so it's not a deal for a dealer.
Dealers have an advantage when buying. Most collectors fill a set by getting the easy ones and slowly their list of what they need gets shorter. When down to a dozen coins needed to fill their set they go shopping with a shorter list and eager to fill those holes. They look on ebay or shows for their short list and fight to buy them at retail. For dealers it's different, they are less eager to fill a certain hole, they are open to any good deal they find. I often found that when I had a short list I'd always see deals on great coins that I already had and often passed them up because I wanted to fill the holes that were still on my list. Later after the set is full I often upgraded and because my mind was open to anything I got better deals on the upgrades than when I was filling holes and often sold my duplicates (the ones I upgraded) at a slight loss. I never feel bad over it, it's something that happens because we like making sets.Comment
Be verwy verwy quiet... I'm hunting coins!!! 
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