1941-D DDR-002 / Variety plus error ( in a way that is )

[stoneman227]

It's DDR-002 but the error is the PCGS holder , it says 1941-S. I love it !

John

1941 d ddr 002 a.jpg
1941 d ddr 002 b.jpg
1941 d ddr 002 c.jpg

[Petespockets55]

LOL.
Well, so much for quality control and proofreading before hitting "Enter".

[GrumpyEd]

They will say it's a mechanical error.

I've seen some funnier ones like wrong denominations and stuff.

[jfines69]

That's cool... I wonder - if you sent it in to get corrected would it come back the same grade

[GrumpyEd]

Jim, it might or might not stay a 65 RD.
You can do some detective work and try figuring it out.
The numbers will be sequential in a submission, it looks like a bunch of 41-S with a 41-D among them in that group.
My guess is, they screwed up and swapped 2 coins/labels so... if that is correct then the 41-D may be the 65 RB (not 65 RD) that is one number off.
Check out:

https://www.pcgs.com/cert/28166246

https://www.pcgs.com/cert/28166247

[GrumpyEd]

For some odd reason, it only opens the link for me in private window.
No idea why LOL

[jfines69]

Jim, it might or might not stay a 65 RD.
You can do some detective work and try figuring it out.
The numbers will be sequential in a submission, it looks like a bunch of 41-S with a 41-D among them in that group.
My guess is, they screwed up and swapped 2 coins/labels so... if that is correct then the 41-D may be the 65 RB (not 65 RD) that is one number off.
Check out:

https://www.pcgs.com/cert/28166246

www.pcgs.com/cert/28166247

Thanks you Ed... That answers my question... The D PCGS # is 2697 and the S is 2701... Like there is a bunch sitting in a row ready to be put in their holders!!!

[GrumpyEd]

Jim,

Not sure what you meant, the numbers are the same except the last digit, that means they were in the same submission in sequence and somehow they get swapped between grading and slabbing.
They do some discount on grading in qty like in full rolls and I think they let you mix mintmarks so sometimes you see where dealers sent in rolls and mixed mintmarks and you get a whole string of sequential cert numbers on a big group.

I've never liked their guarantee saying mechanical problems are not covered.
It's very arrogant, it's like they brag about having great graders and finalizers to check their work and that is guaranteed but what happens between that and putting it in a slab with the right label is not guaranteed.
It would be like your doctor saying he is responsible for your diagnosis but if he writes the wrong med on your prescription that's a typo and not his problem.
In this case it's no big deal but with varieties it can be a big deal.

I do understand their reasoning, it's probably that if they slab your 1909-P as a 1909-S VDB by mistake, they do not want to need to buy it back as a 1909-S VDB. But still I don't agree that excuse is valid at all since you pay for grading and a label.

It's pretty easy to catch with decent QC. At the step they load the box, the slabs should be in a tray that covers the label, the person filling the box should read the coin not the label before they pull it out of the tray and verify it to the packing list then pull it out and verify the label grade and date/mm to the packing list then put it in the box. It's one extra step for a minimum wage person, they are silly mistakes that any average person would catch.

The other solution is, do what they do now and still guarantee it's correct and eat the small cost on most coins.
On high end coins they charge a lot more in grading fees and they charge more for varieties so they can use better QC to avoid expensive mistakes on only those coins.

[jfines69]

Jim,

Not sure what you meant, the numbers are the same except the last digit, that means they were in the same submission in sequence and somehow they get swapped between grading and slabbing.
They do some discount on grading in qty like in full rolls and I think they let you mix mintmarks so sometimes you see where dealers sent in rolls and mixed mintmarks and you get a whole string of sequential cert numbers on a big group.

I've never liked their guarantee saying mechanical problems are not covered.
It's very arrogant, it's like they brag about having great graders and finalizers to check their work and that is guaranteed but what happens between that and putting it in a slab with the right label is not guaranteed.
It would be like your doctor saying he is responsible for your diagnosis but if he writes the wrong med on your prescription that's a typo and not his problem.
In this case it's no big deal but with varieties it can be a big deal.

I do understand their reasoning, it's probably that if they slab your 1909-P as a 1909-S VDB by mistake, they do not want to need to buy it back as a 1909-S VDB. But still I don't agree that excuse is valid at all since you pay for grading and a label.

It's pretty easy to catch with decent QC. At the step they load the box, the slabs should be in a tray that covers the label, the person filling the box should read the coin not the label before they pull it out of the tray and verify it to the packing list then pull it out and verify the label grade and date/mm to the packing list then put it in the box. It's one extra step for a minimum wage person, they are silly mistakes that any average person would catch.

The other solution is, do what they do now and still guarantee it's correct and eat the small cost on most coins.
On high end coins they charge a lot more in grading fees and they charge more for varieties so they can use better QC to avoid expensive mistakes on only those coins.

Well duh I was looking at the PCGS number and not the certification number... The Ds PCGS # is 2697 and the Ss # is 2701... Tells you how much I don't know about submitting coins!!!