2016 D double ear lobe?

[dinkyblue]

Found two of these 2016 D I think it is a DDO on the ear lobe. also found six of the 2015 D DDOs. There is no information available on the 2016 D anywhere I can find. Need some help to determine what it is, all input would be helpful, thank you for looking........dinkyblue

[kloccwork419]

To me, that looks just like the 2019D ear. I'm going with it being a DDO. Could easily be a die dent but so could the new one.

[dinkyblue]

Thank you Kloccwork419 for that information, I'm not to sure about these new DDO shield cents as I call them. There does seem to be a lot of them floating around. I just started to look for them and have found a lot of questionable one's as far as the ear lobe DDO variety goes. I haven't been able find very much about them. Thank again..............Dan

[uglycent]

They have been giving me fits as well, I think everyone disregarded the recent cents from Denver after a rather dry run.

[dinkyblue]

Thank you for your response uglycent, I wish I knew more about them as I'm not sure what constitutes a DDO on these new shield cents. No dry run here, I found 6 of the 2015 Ds that look like DDOs to me......................Dan

[mustbebob]

Do you see any evidence of a die clash in that area? I can't quite tell.

[dinkyblue]

Bob, I don't see any evidence of a die clash obverse or reverse on the coin...............Dan

[mustbebob]

There is obviously something there Dan. I guess the next step would be seeing if we could find another example and the same anomaly was found on other coins. It would be difficult to tell right now, but a die dent is a possibility as already mentioned. Being that there is precedent with the 2018D DDO, I wouldn't rule anything out just yet.

[dinkyblue]

2016 D anomaly

Please correct me if I'm wrong, double dies are created when the hub imprints an additional misaligned image onto a die. And there are eight accepted classes. I think these are either class 1, rotated or class 4, offset. I'm not saying this is a DDO but something caused it. Here is another (well circulated) 2016 D with a similar anomaly. Thanks for helping Bob.......................Dan

[mustbebob]

Dan, These coins were hubbed by the single squeeze method. All of the other classes of doubled dies were made with multiple hubbings so calling this a class 1 or 4 is incorrect. Although VV uses class 8 (tilted) and class 4 (Offset) as their go to for single squeeze, I don't necessarily subscribe to that theory. Coppercoins uses class 9 mostly which we believe is a result of the hub snapping into place when pressure is applied. That would be what could make this anomaly. If the mint actually stops a hubbing, resets and continues a hubbing, that condition could be where a class 4 would be appropriate. This doubled ear (if that's what it is) could come from that type of process.

[jfines69]

Please correct me if I'm wrong, double dies are created when the hub imprints an additional misaligned image onto a die. And there are eight accepted classes. I think these are either class 1, rotated or class 4, offset. I'm not saying this is a DDO but something caused it. Here is another (well circulated) 2016 D with a similar anomaly. Thanks for helping Bob.......................Dan

Do you have any markers??? To me it looks more like a dent??? Appears to have more of a convex shape instead of rounded???

[11997755]

Might make some enemies say this but I have thought from the beginning that all these double ears that have been showing up look to me like a die chips. I am far from being an expert so I assume they actually are double dies.

[dinkyblue]

This 2016 D has no listing, unless you know of one that I haven't seen. I'v been doing my own short study one these new shield penny DDOs as I call them. Whatever or how they were created is still a puzzle to me. There is one thing for sure that I noticed and that is the anomaly shows up at the same place, at or around bottom of the ear lobe. No matter how many I look at it's always in this area, some of them look a little different as far as being raised or more flat looking but the general shape is mainly the same. Here is what I see. I used the 2015 D as an example it seems to have more of the anomaly..................Dan

[dinkyblue]

shield penny pics

Some of them might look like die chips but I don't think they are. They do show up in most all of the shield pennies dates If you notice all these posted do not appear to look like DDOs. The DDOs look just like a extra ear lobe, these don't. Here are some images of the anomaly on a few of them.........Dan

[centMD]

To me these are all doubled dies. I have a friend who sent me copies from various dies for each year. I know there are probably at least a half dozen in each year from 2015-D to 2018-D, and easily could be more.

Dan