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  • pdi
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    • Feb 2014
    • 653

    #1

    1949S-1MM-014 I think

    I’m not certain about this one. If anyone can confirm it for me, I would appreciate the help.
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  • TPring
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    • Sep 2017
    • 3120

    #2
    Did an overlay and it doesn't appear to be a match -- Your MM seems a bit too far east. Not sure it is an RPM.

    1MM-14
    Last edited by TPring; 02-16-2023, 06:30 PM.
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    • pdi
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      • Feb 2014
      • 653

      #3
      Thanks Tpring, I was just looking as well and came to that same conclusion. I didn’t see any that looked like a good candidate on Wexler’s site. Thank you for taking a look for me.

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      • makecents
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        • Jun 2017
        • 11038

        #4
        I agree with T, that there is no RPM. Everything you are seeing, is part of that punch. Here is a good read for you from a study that Will did. This punch was brought back and used, several years later and developed even more characteristics, as it was continued to be used. Even though your coin is not from the 70's, thought you might like to see this.

        LINK http://www.varietyvista.com/Mystery%...rk%20Punch.htm

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        • pdi
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          • Feb 2014
          • 653

          #5
          Originally posted by makecents
          I agree with T, that there is no RPM. Everything you are seeing, is part of that punch. Here is a good read for you from a study that Will did. This punch was brought back and used, several years later and developed even more characteristics, as it was continued to be used. Even though your coin is not from the 70's, thought you might like to see this.

          LINK http://www.varietyvista.com/Mystery%...rk%20Punch.htm
          I don’t know Tpring and makcents, here is a better look at the mint mark. I’m wrong more than I am right. I just want to make sure before I put it away.

          edit, I understand what you guys are saying. The trumpet looks complete. Thanks for helping me.
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          Last edited by pdi; 02-17-2023, 07:56 AM.

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          • makecents
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            • Jun 2017
            • 11038

            #6
            Check out cc's and Wexlers 023. The mm placement looks very close but cannot tell for sure, because of circulation wear.

            cc https://coppercoins.com/lincoln/dies...&die_state=mds

            Wexler https://doubleddie.com/1772804.html
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            • pdi
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              • Feb 2014
              • 653

              #7
              Originally posted by makecents
              Check out cc's and Wexlers 023. The mm placement looks very close but cannot tell for sure, because of circulation wear.

              cc https://coppercoins.com/lincoln/dies...&die_state=mds

              Wexler https://doubleddie.com/1772804.html
              well makecents, that’s about the closest one out of the bunch. I will put that down as a possible match.thank you for your help. I appreciate it.

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              • TPring
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                • Sep 2017
                • 3120

                #8
                Originally posted by pdi
                I will put that down as a possible match.thank you for your help. I appreciate it.
                Not to throw a wet blanket over your coin, but I did an overlay of 1mm-23 and while it does line up longitudinally [north-south], it does appear to be a bit eastward [green arrows]. That being said, some people don't put a lot of faith in overlays because of picture angles, lenses, lighting, et al.

                Good luck with it.
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                Last edited by TPring; 02-18-2023, 02:02 AM.
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                • pdi
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                  • Feb 2014
                  • 653

                  #9
                  [QUOTE=TPring;390906]Not to throw a wet blanket over your coin, but I did an overlay of 1mm-23 and while it does line up longitudinally [north-south], it does appear to be a bit eastward [green arrows]. That being said, some people don't put a lot of faith in overlays because of picture angles, lenses, lighting, et al.

                  Thanks for doing the overlay Tpring, I thought the angle of the mint mark looked similar but as you pointed out mine is a bit more east and lower. No worries. I knew it was not a match but I was still going to stash it with my mm variety’s for good keeping. Maybe someday you can explain to me how to do overlays and what software is best for doing so.
                  Good luck with it.

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                  • TPring
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                    • Sep 2017
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                    #10
                    Glad to help. I do my overlays HERE but there are other online sites. Just do a screenshot of your coin's date/mm and one of the target coin's date/mm and lay one pic over the other & fade the second pic out a bit, then lining up the dates you can compare the difference.

                    From your mm pic, I can see that your coin definitely is an RPM [didn't see the split in the obverse pic] at the white arrow angled something like what I illustrated in my pic.
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                    • pdi
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                      • Feb 2014
                      • 653

                      #11
                      Originally posted by TPring
                      Glad to help. I do my overlays HERE but there are other online sites. Just do a screenshot of your coin's date/mm and one of the target coin's date/mm and lay one pic over the other & fade the second pic out a bit, then lining up the dates you can compare the difference.

                      From your mm pic, I can see that your coin definitely is an RPM [didn't see the split in the obverse pic] at the white arrow angled something like what I illustrated in my pic.
                      thanks, that will help a lot

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                      • jfines69
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                        • Jun 2010
                        • 28848

                        #12
                        Very interesting... A possible new listing... I looked thru CC, VV with no matches at all for MM location... As for Wexlers there were a couple I could not tell the exact MM location of as the pics did show the MMs relative location to the date... When doing overlays for MM position it is best to have as many points of reference as possible... Date, mm, rim and jacket points of reference will give the best results even when taking into account for die wear, camera differences and lighting!!!
                        Jim
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                        • willbrooks
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                          • Jan 2012
                          • 9477

                          #13
                          Originally posted by TPring

                          From your mm pic, I can see that your coin definitely is an RPM [didn't see the split in the obverse pic] at the white arrow angled something like what I illustrated in my pic.
                          Definitely? Man, you're a piece of work.
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