1910 reverse of 09

[coinman2009]

Here’s a preview of the article that will be in the June, Numismatist. I misspoke last night saying it was going to be in May. 1910 over 09 reverse. The N in United is supposed to be a clean cut N, the N on this one is a transition of the type 1, and type 2 reverse of 1909. We had been working with the 09 reverse’s trying to identify the different versions, and got very familiar with a few reverse’s, then one day of checking some 1910’s on EBay, Shawn from the group found what he thought was a 1909 reverse on a 1910. After a a quick double take, the buy it now was hit. Sharing pics of what he had found, I went looking, and found an exact example. An example is with Dr. Wiles currently. It was an auction, and had to wait it out. We knew what we had found. Here’s a look. Special thanks to Shawn Tew, and Blaine Neupert. Enjoy!

[jfines69]

That's an awesome discovery!!!

[WaterSport]

So you guys also are convinced the 1910 DDR listed on Wexler is a worn die ?

Bob

[Petespockets55]

Kudos on the discovery to all involved and thanks for sharing with us.

This is extremely interesting. People looking for the 1910 over the 1909 reverse were so focused on trying to see remnants of the VDB they missed other design changes.

[Petespockets55]

So you guys also are convinced the 1910 DDR listed on Wexler is a worn die ?

Bob

Good question.
I have multiple examples, the best being AU I believe.

[coinman2009]

I’m aware of the 10 ddr from Wexler’s listing, it was mentioned before the write up, not sure why it ended up that way. I have yet to find an example, but I’m looking. Thank you

[coinman2009]

I also have a brighter example, with some die markers I can share later. Thank you

[willbrooks]

Great stuff! Way to go.

[jfines69]

Does this cover only the 1910 or does it include the 1910S also??? Another question is did you look thru the listings on PCGS to see if there were any samples showing up there???

[coinman2009]

We have not found a 10-s with this reverse yet, we fully expect it to be found. The reverse is found on 09-s mints, so it very well could be on the 10-s. There is a group of 4-5 of us, that have checked just about every possible picture within the last 3-4 months. Enjoy!

[makecents]

So, a question. On your first post, on this subject, the link from cc I left you, do you think that may be a possible 2nd or maybe even 3rd master die mishap, from 1909, that got reused by some 1910 reverses, for a short time?

[makecents]

I'll be honest, I really know little about early wheats. Just trying to learn. I know there is a lot going on with the 1909 that I have never really dug into and am very ignorant about. Much less, it bleeding over to the 1910's.

[coinman2009]

From everything we can tell, this is a type 1 over a type 2 1909 reverse. It was used on P’s, VDB’s, and S mints. The 1910 coins are supposed to have. A sharp cut N in United, this is a transition of the 2 earlier reverse’s. Seems like it was a
leftover and used on a few 10’s. Still in the determination stage, but Dr. Wiles has said this will be a class 3 ddr.

[Petespockets55]

.... Still in the determination stage, but Dr. Wiles has said this will be a class 3 ddr.

Seems like the logical choice.