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  • twoyankees
    Member
    • Oct 2010
    • 913

    #16
    Just a few observations, put the word"coin" somewhere in the title. I also think some of the wording should be changed up a bit.
    Example; chip away- analize
    Radar- catagory
    I have finally- this book has been put together ( compiled). Save the I, me, my, for the forward. The two paragraphs on the back almost sounds like you are saying the same thing twice. Try to compress it into one. You are on the right track, just refine it a bit. Tom

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    • atarian
      Member
      • Jun 2010
      • 1572

      #17
      Taking some advise from here and in the other forum I think this is a better cover, Catches your eye, tells you what it is. I need a program to make the texture and boarders.

      <3 In memory of Tiggar 5/21/1994 - 5/28/2010 <3 WAM Count : 025 .
      Founder of the NDCCA. **
      NDCCA Catalog Database Total
      . : 2,735. ** -- Jay --

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      • Maineman750
        Administrator

        • Apr 2011
        • 12079

        #18
        Now that is looking good Jay !
        https://www.ebay.com/sch/maineman750...75.m3561.l2562

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        • atarian
          Member
          • Jun 2010
          • 1572

          #19
          Last thing I wonder about is the 3c with the arrows , i think i might want to replace it but wanted one last opinion . Maybe Ill replace it before i call it done. Outside of that the front cover is done I think. ( till i get a texture program ). Off to the back cover and then back to the publisher front.
          <3 In memory of Tiggar 5/21/1994 - 5/28/2010 <3 WAM Count : 025 .
          Founder of the NDCCA. **
          NDCCA Catalog Database Total
          . : 2,735. ** -- Jay --

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          • coppercoins
            Lincoln Cent Variety Expert
            • Dec 2008
            • 2482

            #20
            Additionally, if you intend on keeping a foreword in the book, you should spell it correctly. It's "foreword" - not "foreward".

            It stands in short for a "word before the book" from someone who did not write the book.

            Your cover design is a bit bland - very plain in design, as is the text selection. It's definitely not an eye-grabber. Additionally, there's no hook on the cover.

            Very candidly - it looks like it was designed by someone who doesn't have any idea how to design a book cover.

            This is one of those things that should be left to someone who really knows what they are doing. The old adage that people judge a book by its cover is very definitely true, and the cover itself could make or break the book. It's the single most important part to making sales, and is definitely NOT something that should be rushed through, and definitely something a professional should do.

            Furthermore, if the coins on the cover are not in the book, get rid of them. Don't use ANY images as subject matter on the cover that will not be used in the book.
            Charles D. Daughtrey, NLG, Author, "Looking Through Lincoln Cents"
            [URL="http://www.coppercoins.com/"]http://www.coppercoins.com[/URL]

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            • Maineman750
              Administrator

              • Apr 2011
              • 12079

              #21
              Not splitting hairs..but the adage is : "Never judge a book by it's cover"
              https://www.ebay.com/sch/maineman750...75.m3561.l2562

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              • atarian
                Member
                • Jun 2010
                • 1572

                #22
                Originally posted by coppercoins
                Additionally, if you intend on keeping a foreword in the book, you should spell it correctly. It's "foreword" - not "foreward".

                1.) It stands in short for a "word before the book" from someone who did not write the book..

                2.) Your cover design is a bit bland - very plain in design, as is the text selection. It's definitely not an eye-grabber. Additionally, there's no hook on the cover.

                3.) Very candidly - it looks like it was designed by someone who doesn't have any idea how to design a book cover.

                4.) This is one of those things that should be left to someone who really knows what they are doing. The old adage that people judge a book by its cover is very definitely true, and the cover itself could make or break the book. It's the single most important part to making sales, and is definitely NOT something that should be rushed through, and definitely something a professional should do.

                5.) Furthermore, if the coins on the cover are not in the book, get rid of them. Don't use ANY images as subject matter on the cover that will not be used in the book.

                1.) I have changed that ( actually for the time being deleted it till the foreword is done and ready to be added to the book. ) But the spelling correction has been addressed. I have someone out side of me willing to write the Foreword of the book.

                2.) Im not sure what kinda hook I should be after, I did try to find 3 of the more interesting coins. I was thinking maybe my 1907 IHC with a lamination peel for the cover but wasnt sure if I should that or stick to 1 1c 2c 3c combo.I could always edit the 1c picture the 1994 LIIBIERTY cent and do the peel.

                3.) Yep and thats basically where I am with this cover project. New at it and first try with it using Microsoft publisher. My energy and willingness to try is unmatched ( sadly this might still not resolve the fact that Im new and it shows).

                4.) I might look into a professional to address this cover. But I think the very first cover I made was a total amateur job and this I feel looks much more professional in appearance. I think Ive come along way with this.(maybe not far enough).

                5.) These coins are the ones in my collection. The few who are not in my collection are ones sent in for photography and I gave them credit for sending coins in for the project in my Credits and Acknowledgments page. Every coin has been photographed by me personally. But I totally agree with you don't mislead the buyer in thinking something is in there that isnt.
                <3 In memory of Tiggar 5/21/1994 - 5/28/2010 <3 WAM Count : 025 .
                Founder of the NDCCA. **
                NDCCA Catalog Database Total
                . : 2,735. ** -- Jay --

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                • atarian
                  Member
                  • Jun 2010
                  • 1572

                  #23
                  I think I like the cover layout outside the one cent picture. I will adjust that and the text on the back.

                  However do we have any website designers out there looking for a project? Please pm if you are one or know of one
                  <3 In memory of Tiggar 5/21/1994 - 5/28/2010 <3 WAM Count : 025 .
                  Founder of the NDCCA. **
                  NDCCA Catalog Database Total
                  . : 2,735. ** -- Jay --

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                  • jcuve
                    Moderator, Die & Variety Expert
                    • Apr 2008
                    • 15458

                    #24
                    You could try a high school or college with a design course/program. For $100 you might get a logo and a book cover from a student. Alternatively you could try and model yours after other coin eBooks or coin books. I agree with Chuck the cover has to be good and related. A hook would help; Wexler and Flynn have the '74 aluminum Lincoln cent on the cover of the Authoritative Reference on Lincoln Cents. What is the best coin you are illustrating?



                    Jason Cuvelier


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                    • Maineman750
                      Administrator

                      • Apr 2011
                      • 12079

                      #25
                      I like Jason's idea about a college student..maybe you could introduce into a class as a contest ? But again..I still think what you have is pretty cool and I now realize why...it looks very similar to my CPG.
                      https://www.ebay.com/sch/maineman750...75.m3561.l2562

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                      • lucybug
                        Member
                        • Feb 2012
                        • 201

                        #26
                        When do you plan on publishing the book? I'm a little busy right now but by trade I am a sign designer and sign maker and I may be able to help you out with the design aspect.

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                        • copperlover

                          #27
                          I have to agree with the idea that your front and back covers are the attention grabber for your book and that time is required to get the finished product to look awesome. The edit for grammar can be done before proofreading. That being said just get all the help you can and stay positive. This is where you keep your eyes on the ball. Keep it going.

                          Cheers..............Lucien

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                          • atarian
                            Member
                            • Jun 2010
                            • 1572

                            #28
                            A professional editor that can also do layout ( making sure my little boxes are filled and centered) cost a little $ which i dont mind paying but Im word counting the book now so when i send in my word total estimate I can get a realistic price. The grammar and such shouldnt be bad after 4 proof reads. I would like one outsider to go through it. and also if they can center things up it would be great cause that the part that annoys me cause i feel I never get it 100% the way it should be. im about 80% centered but the 20% is driving me nuts. The first 60 pages of the 190 page book is just under 8,000 words so im thinking in all 25,000 to 35,000 words total, with some larger sections to follow. I got 1 good book on this but it gets annoying that when working on 3 fronts an area like a website is messed up cause the program doesnt stay consistent with what you want, like it wants to do its own default after you save your backround colors. Cover needs some picture and back cover text edits but Im happy with that. Outside of that a few minor tweaks and a word count then I can get a final once over. Some people here I inquired and such but no word since from them.
                            <3 In memory of Tiggar 5/21/1994 - 5/28/2010 <3 WAM Count : 025 .
                            Founder of the NDCCA. **
                            NDCCA Catalog Database Total
                            . : 2,735. ** -- Jay --

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