1899 BU Morgan Silver dollar Die crack or cud

[JoAnn]

I Bought this BU Morgan 1899 Dollar for investment purposes....looking closer at the reverse I was so excited....I am just now learning to take pics sooo...here they are Do you think it is a die crack or cud? what do ypu all think..I paid $17.00 dollars for it It is truly my fav of all my coins

[jfines69]

I am still not sure on this one... What I saw on STATES in the other thread is not there but I do see what appears to be a crack from the I in UNITED to the rim and I still see the crack from E in AMERICA to the rim... There also appears to be some minor displacement along the tops of the letters and where the crack goes thru the wing feathers... Your pics are fine by the way it is my vision that is giving me some problems... Have you tried sending a PM to BJ (Trails) yet and ask him to come have a look??? He is the pro on these CUDS and retained CUDS!!!

[onecent1909]

OK..I just want to clear the terminology here

a cud is a missing part of the coin yielding a blob of metal that is left over in the void of the die.
With that said. a retained cud would be more of the case of what JFINES is talking about....
but I do not believe that is this.. Just neat die cracks no CUDS/RETAINED CUDS
(which I like and enjoy... and ATARIAN studies and is working on a book of )

HOWEVER: this is 1899 O VAM 11A

See link
the cracks match

Cud: A rim to rim die break, resulting in a piece of the die breaking off and falling out. The coins struck by such a die will exhibit a “blob” of raised metal along the rim where the normal design element should be. Cuds are always connected to the rim, else they are called interior die breaks. Due to the missing chunk in the die, the opposite side of the coin will exhibit a weakly struck area as shown in the 2nd photo below. Please visit cuds-on-coins.com for cud listings and attributions.


Retained Cud: This is a rim-to-rim die break that hasn’t completely fallen out of the die. There is usually some lateral or vertical shifting of the broken piece, which will show on the coins it strikes, although the design will be largely intact in that broken area on the coin itself. Please visit cuds-on-coins.com to see listings for retained cuds.

[JoAnn]

I went to CONECA but couldn't send message to him personally don't know if it is because im not member yet im working on the membership with my farmers market money BTW are you interested in some homemade blackberry jam tehe

[JoAnn]

HOLY COW THIS IS MY COIN EXACTLY.. ONLY THING DIFFERENT IS MINE IS A BU WHAT DO YOU THINK ,AYBE HIGH VALUE HUN XX

[jfines69]

Thanks for setting that straight... I was thinking retained cud but I guess it did not type out that way... I am glad there are so many pros here to keep us straight!!!

[JoAnn]

jfines I think you did just fine and now am very excited now to find if this coin has any value

[onecent1909]

Go to the link and scan to the bottom

[JoAnn]

GOT IT THANKS HUN

[JeanK]

Hi JoAnn,

For a 'newbie' you sure are finding some fascinating stuff. You have a good eye for seeing differences in what a coin is suppose to look like and what this one shows. Makes me think you might be a very good 'spotter' during hunting season.
Jean