1981-S Dime Type 1 MM Inverted?

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  • jay4202472000
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    • Dec 2012
    • 1346

    #1

    1981-S Dime Type 1 MM Inverted?

    My stepfather has this coin. He has just a few coins, as he isn't a collector. He does have a 1981 proof set, so I told him about the type 2 mint marks and I looked them over in hopes of finding one. No such luck. I did notice this one though. I swear the S on this dime looks inverted. I didn't have my macro lens or my stable set up, so I just snapped an image with his Kodak. The image quality isn't great but I think it's good enough for opinions. I have also attached an image of a normal type 1, from the San Fran mint marks styles on the LCR website. It is from a Lincoln, but the style is the same. What say you guys?
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  • jfines69
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    • Jun 2010
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    #2
    The dime pic is a little to fuzzy to tell for sure but it does appear inverted???
    Jim
    (A.K.A. Elmer Fudd) Be verwy verwy quiet... I'm hunting coins!!! Good Hunting!!!

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    • Maineman750
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      • Apr 2011
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      #3
      I can't tell anything by the picture...too small and out of focus
      https://www.ebay.com/sch/maineman750...75.m3561.l2562

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      • duece2seven
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        • Feb 2013
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        #4
        I haven't studied these in a while. I'm not certain at all but that does look like the clear S to me. Couldn't check V. Vista. Looks like they're updating that section.

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        • jay4202472000
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          • Dec 2012
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          #5
          Originally posted by duece2seven
          I haven't studied these in a while. I'm not certain at all but that does look like the clear S to me. Couldn't check V. Vista. Looks like they're updating that section.
          It's a type 1 S. Both are clear for 1981. The type 1 S is tall and the same style as the type 2 for 1979. The type 2 for 1981 is a flatter S with "bulbs" for serifs. A lot of folks call the type 2 for 1981 a clear S, but I feel that's not an accurate description. If so, you couldn't call the type 2 for 1979 a clear S. Dang, that's confusing. I'm not sure the MMS number for dimes, but it's the same style S as MMS-010 on Lincolns. See here: http://www.lincolncentresource.com/S...rk_Styles.html

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          • jay4202472000
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            • Dec 2012
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            #6
            Originally posted by Maineman750
            I can't tell anything by the picture...too small and out of focus
            Yeah, I knew the image wasn't that good. They'll be back in a week or so, and I'll take my stuff over to get better images. I hoped this one would be decent enough to tell.

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            • Maineman750
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              • Apr 2011
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              #7
              Originally posted by jay4202472000
              Yeah, I knew the image wasn't that good. They'll be back in a week or so, and I'll take my stuff over to get better images. I hoped this one would be decent enough to tell.
              Maybe it's just me...but when I click on the pic, it doesn't enlarge...and others are commenting like they can see it ?
              https://www.ebay.com/sch/maineman750...75.m3561.l2562

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              • jfines69
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                • Jun 2010
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                #8
                Originally posted by Maineman750
                Maybe it's just me...but when I click on the pic, it doesn't enlarge...and others are commenting like they can see it ?
                I click the image to open it in a new tab then zoom in... The dime pic I can zoom to 300 percent before it pixelates!!!
                Jim
                (A.K.A. Elmer Fudd) Be verwy verwy quiet... I'm hunting coins!!! Good Hunting!!!

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                • Maineman750
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                  • Apr 2011
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                  #9
                  Originally posted by jfines69
                  I click the image to open it in a new tab then zoom in... The dime pic I can zoom to 300 percent before it pixelates!!!
                  Yeah...when I do that, it enlarges to about 3"x3".
                  https://www.ebay.com/sch/maineman750...75.m3561.l2562

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                  • jay4202472000
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                    • Dec 2012
                    • 1346

                    #10
                    I cropped the image. Here is the full image. The resolution will be no better, but it may help.
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                    • WheatsRATreat
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                      • Mar 2015
                      • 257

                      #11
                      That's a lot easier to see now, imo. It does look interesting, but I don't deal with dime often enough to say for certain that it's inverted. The upper portion of the S does appear to be thicker than the lower portion of the curve.

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                      • duece2seven
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                        • Feb 2013
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                        #12
                        It looks normal to me, Jay. The upper "ball" appears larger and flattens out on the inside curve like the normal MMS-011, right?
                        I wish I could remember but I'm pretty sure I broached this same subject about 4 years ago and it drove me nuts! It may not be
                        inverted but darn if it doesn't look like it!

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                        • jfines69
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                          • Jun 2010
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                          #13
                          Originally posted by duece2seven
                          It looks normal to me, Jay. The upper "ball" appears larger and flattens out on the inside curve like the normal MMS-011, right?
                          I wish I could remember but I'm pretty sure I broached this same subject about 4 years ago and it drove me nuts! It may not be
                          inverted but darn if it doesn't look like it!
                          I can't be driven nuts... I got there a long time ago
                          Jim
                          (A.K.A. Elmer Fudd) Be verwy verwy quiet... I'm hunting coins!!! Good Hunting!!!

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                          • jay4202472000
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                            • Dec 2012
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                            #14
                            You were right all along!

                            Originally posted by duece2seven
                            It looks normal to me, Jay. The upper "ball" appears larger and flattens out on the inside curve like the normal MMS-011, right?
                            I wish I could remember but I'm pretty sure I broached this same subject about 4 years ago and it drove me nuts! It may not be
                            inverted but darn if it doesn't look like it!
                            My step father got back yesterday, so I went over and looked at it with my loupe took pictures. None of the other coins were type 2. He doesn't remember where he got them, but the "set" was in 2x2s. It only had from cent to half, no SBA. All the other coins were impaired (fingerprints). He told me to take it since it was a variety and he knows I love them.

                            You were right all along deuce! Here's some better images. I wonder how scarce the type 2s are on Roosevelts?

                            One other thing...I want to apologize to Brad for using the type 2 S image from LCR without permission. I don't know why I did this. I wasn't thinking. Should've just linked the page. Sorry man.
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                            • duece2seven
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                              • Feb 2013
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                              #15
                              Originally posted by jay4202472000
                              My step father got back yesterday, so I went over and looked at it with my loupe took pictures. None of the other coins were type 2. He doesn't remember where he got them, but the "set" was in 2x2s. It only had from cent to half, no SBA. All the other coins were impaired (fingerprints). He told me to take it since it was a variety and he knows I love them.

                              You were right all along deuce! Here's some better images. I wonder how scarce the type 2s are on Roosevelts?

                              One other thing...I want to apologize to Brad for using the type 2 S image from LCR without permission. I don't know why I did this. I wasn't thinking. Should've just linked the page. Sorry man.
                              I think all 1981 denominations in type 2 carry a premium but I'm not positive. I'm thinking the Susan B's are the most popular and carry a bigger premium compared to the other denominations. I've seen some of those fetch several hundred bucks if they grade out well. Check out Blueridgesilverhound on You Tube. He has a few really cool vids on this subject. He's a member here - Kookoox10 I believe. He has the best variety videos on the web in my opinion.

                              Here's the highest price sold on eBay recently:

                              Item# 291619648831
                              Last edited by duece2seven; 02-06-2016, 04:21 AM.

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