1985 P Jefferson Nickel / Error or PSD

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  • engine823
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    • May 2011
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    1985 P Jefferson Nickel / Error or PSD

    Was roll searching and this jumped out at me. I'm leaning PSD because that would be the easy answer, but wanted everyone to at least look at it.
    The obverse shows a strange beveling to the outer rim that slightly effects the letters, however it only effects the obverse half of the rim ( 360 degrees ). The reverse half of the rim doesn't appear affected.
    How could only the obverse half of the rim be affected? I then noticed it has a tick mark design around it for lack of a better way to explain it.
    I hope the pictures show what I'm seeing. Any help would be appreciated. It just seemed really odd to me.
    Thanks
    Shannon

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  • enamel7
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    • Apr 2009
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    #2
    Need a full shot of the obverse to know for sure!

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    • GrumpyEd
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      • Jan 2013
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      #3
      Also, show the diameter of it like set it on a normal nickel.

      My initial reaction is that maybe it was filed away but not sure. It has a line pattern on the beveled edge right?
      I guess you could hold a coin against a belt sander or something and get a similar look and probably a hot finger

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      • engine823
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        • May 2011
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        #4
        Thanks friends. Here is some more pics and weights. In the rim comparison with another nickel you can see what I was meaning by the fact it only affects the obverse half of the rim. The reeded edge is all the way around. Weight of the unusual nickel is 4.79 Grams and the comparison nickel weighed 4.93

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        • enamel7
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          • Apr 2009
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          #5
          It has the appearance of the start of a dryer coin. Anyway, in my opinion it's definitely PSD.

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          • engine823
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            • May 2011
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            #6
            The reeded edge is what threw me off. Your probably exactly right but will hold on to it for a bit longer until I can get a few more opinions

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            • enamel7
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              #7
              I'm not seeing a reeded edge.

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              • jfines69
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                • Jun 2010
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                #8
                Looks like it was filed down to fit in a bezel a.k.a. PSD!!!
                Jim
                (A.K.A. Elmer Fudd) Be verwy verwy quiet... I'm hunting coins!!! Good Hunting!!!

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                • engine823
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                  • May 2011
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                  #9
                  Originally posted by enamel7
                  I'm not seeing a reeded edge.
                  Look at the third picture on my original post

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                  • engine823
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                    • May 2011
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                    #10
                    Originally posted by jfines69
                    Looks like it was filed down to fit in a bezel a.k.a. PSD!!!
                    Not disagreeing that it is PSD but I would think that filing or grinding down the edge would not create such uniform tick marks on the edge of the coin??
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                    Last edited by engine823; 11-18-2017, 04:17 PM.

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                    • enamel7
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                      • Apr 2009
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                      #11
                      Originally posted by engine823
                      Look at the third picture on my original post
                      It's not reeding. It's just what's left as a defect from what ever damaged it. Looking at that design rules out the dryer coin theory. It was either filed or taken off with a dremel tool.

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                      • GrumpyEd
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                        • Jan 2013
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                        #12
                        The first pics show part of the rev missing, is that just the pic cutting it off or is it missing?

                        I'm pretty sure it's PSD.

                        Either it was filed away and left that pattern or...

                        Something was pressed onto it that had that pattern and beveled the edge similar to an ex encased coin. If the rev is not missing a section and it's slightly big (like you can't push it into a hole in a nickel folder) then it was from smashing. The part of the rev rim that shows in the pic also looks a bit flattened. If not big/smashed it was probably filed/ground away.

                        I can't think of anything the mint could do that would cause that and those fine lines aren't reeding. They are either from grinding/filing or like rifling marks on a bullet from something mashed onto it.
                        Last edited by GrumpyEd; 11-19-2017, 02:16 AM.

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                        • jfines69
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                          • Jun 2010
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                          #13
                          The perfection of the filing all depends on the equipment used and skill of the person doing the work... IMHO, jewelers tools were most likely used and the individual that did this nickel was most likely a professional jeweler... The chamfer appears to have been done in such a way as to ensure the words can easily be read and the coin was centered in its bezel!!!
                          Jim
                          (A.K.A. Elmer Fudd) Be verwy verwy quiet... I'm hunting coins!!! Good Hunting!!!

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                          • engine823
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                            • May 2011
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                            #14
                            Thanks friends! I used the word reeding because that was what first came to mind when I saw it. I knew it was not reeding like on a dime from the mint. Thank you all for all the wonderful comments. It was a unusual coin that caught the eye for sure.
                            Back to the throw away bucket!

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                            • jfines69
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                              • Jun 2010
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                              #15
                              It does look like reeding at first glance... It is cool looking!!!
                              Jim
                              (A.K.A. Elmer Fudd) Be verwy verwy quiet... I'm hunting coins!!! Good Hunting!!!

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