2015 P Nebraska Quarter Die Chip?

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  • Coin5
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    • Jun 2018
    • 419

    #1

    2015 P Nebraska Quarter Die Chip?

    I have seen a few Nebraska Quarters with problems on the cabin's roof edge similar to the die chips on top of the Shield in Lincoln Cents. I would say too many for the amount of that particular Quater I have seen, so I guess they are very common. This one however, became interesting as it has a different shape and it's bigger that the others I have seen so far.
    Do you think it's actually a die chip or is it something else I might not be aware of?

    Thanks,
    Adrian

    Sat Oct 13 11-50-51.jpgSat Oct 13 11-49-08.jpgSat Oct 13 11-56-20.jpgSat Oct 13 11-58-15.jpg
  • Petespockets55
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    • Dec 2014
    • 6875

    #2
    I don't know how to do overlays for this quarter but I wonder if this particular chip might be from a clash weakening the die in that area enough that it chipped out.
    Do you see any signs of a clash?
    Are the chips you have noticed in the same area or all along the roof line?

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    • Coin5
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      • Jun 2018
      • 419

      #3
      Originally posted by Petespockets55
      I don't know how to do overlays for this quarter but I wonder if this particular chip might be from a clash weakening the die in that area enough that it chipped out.
      Do you see any signs of a clash?
      Are the chips you have noticed in the same area or all along the roof line?
      I though about a clash also Cliff, it's too perfect for a chip... I inspected the coin; but can't find any other signs of a clash, neither abrasions. I don't have enough experience to detect that though. It resembles a hair curl to me.. Washington's pony tail is about in that area on the obverse; but does not match the location exactly... Clash with a rotated die? Can't tell.
      The other chips I have noticed are all anywhere along the roof line.
      Thanks,
      Adrian

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      • VAB2013
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        • Nov 2013
        • 12351

        #4
        Found coop's overlay here. What you have looks like a nice die chip to me, maybe big enough for an IDB? Have you sent it to JC yet?

        It could be related to a clash, over abrading the die in that area like Cliff said... the back of the bust is in that general location.

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        • Petespockets55
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          • Dec 2014
          • 6875

          #5
          If you've noticed them in many areas of the roof line it probably has more to do with the design, similar to the edge of the shield as you mentioned.

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          • makecents
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            • Jun 2017
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            #6
            Very cool looking find Adrian!!

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            • Coin5
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              • Jun 2018
              • 419

              #7
              Yes Cliff; but this one caught my attention because of it's unusual wave like shape.
              Here are pics of another I found with the prob I mentioned before along the roof. There are some in the left side of the roof also; but it's almost impossible to see it in the pics...

              Thanks

              Sat Oct 13 11-41-30.jpgSat Oct 13 11-42-07.jpg

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              • jfines69
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                • Jun 2010
                • 28605

                #8
                Nice finds... Looks like a IDB to me... Check out COC http://cuds-on-coins.com/interior-di...verse-quarter/ If yours isn't listed it should be... Did you check for a DDR???
                Jim
                (A.K.A. Elmer Fudd) Be verwy verwy quiet... I'm hunting coins!!! Good Hunting!!!

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                • Coin5
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                  • Jun 2018
                  • 419

                  #9
                  Yes, it has to be a die chip and perhaps it will qualify as an IDB as you mentioned. I will send it to JC; but don't know if the pics will be OK. Let's see.
                  No, I haven't checked for DDRs yet.
                  Thank you Jim,
                  Adrian

                  I had noticed the second coin also has the die chip under the bucket.

                  Sat Oct 13 11-39-51.jpg

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                  • jfines69
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                    • Jun 2010
                    • 28605

                    #10
                    Cool... Thanks for the follow up... Lets us know what JC says!!!
                    Jim
                    (A.K.A. Elmer Fudd) Be verwy verwy quiet... I'm hunting coins!!! Good Hunting!!!

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                    • Coin5
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                      • Jun 2018
                      • 419

                      #11
                      JC said it is just a different stage of the same IDB he has already listed. This is in regards to the first coin in this thread, I did not submitted the second coin.
                      Thanks,
                      Adrian

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                      • VAB2013
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                        • Nov 2013
                        • 12351

                        #12
                        Thanks for the follow up Adrian! It's cool to know it's an IDB, even though already listed, you have a nice addition to your collection!

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                        • Coin5
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                          • Jun 2018
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                          #13
                          Originally posted by VAB2013
                          Thanks for the follow up Adrian! It's cool to know it's an IDB, even though already listed, you have a nice addition to your collection!
                          JC didn't mentioned the word IDB; but since I submitted it as "Snow on Roof" IDB and he said it's just a different stage, I think he was referring to the "Snow on Roof" he has already listed as an IDB. Actaually, I don't know if because of the size the one I submitted it can be classified as an IDB or it's still Die Chip. I think to be classified as an IDB it has to be greater than 4 sq cm, smaller than that, it is a die chip. I don't know if the one I have is smaller or greater than the 4sq cm threshold.
                          Thanks Viv.
                          Adrian

                          Edit: Sorry, it should read sq mm and not sq cm. Square millimeters and not square centimeters.
                          Last edited by Coin5; 10-16-2018, 02:00 PM.

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                          • VAB2013
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                            • Nov 2013
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                            #14
                            I had to look back at the definition of an IDB on cuds-on-coins and it's 4 square millimeters. The closest thing I could find is a jewelry chart that shows what 4 sq mm should look like. The link is below, but to be sure the size is correct, it's recommended to measure the shapes with a ruler.

                            CZ is an acronym for cubic zirconia, a man-made stone used in place of diamonds. Compare sizes and shapes of CZ with our handy charts.

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                            • jfines69
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                              • Jun 2010
                              • 28605

                              #15
                              I think JC may have misread the position of your IDB... There are 2 listed Snow on Roof coins - 02R (HNM) Stages A - D and 03R (HNM) Stages A and B... The size and location of your IDB does not appear match for an earlier or later die stage for either??? An IDB is still a chip and a chip is still an IDB... They are only classified due to the size... In this case size does matter as if it is 4 square mms then it graduates from being a lowly ol' chip to the designation of an IDB... In between those are the RIDBs (Retained Interior Die Break)... Hope that helps!!!
                              Jim
                              (A.K.A. Elmer Fudd) Be verwy verwy quiet... I'm hunting coins!!! Good Hunting!!!

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