1945 PSD?

[Dearing]

I was just wondering if these three things are PSD, I figure the top of the coin one is but def not sure about the bottom 2?

[makecents]

Got ya a nice, well circulated silver war nickel! Can't really tell for sure on any but I'll give you some things to check out. Your not goint to hurt this coin at this point, so I would take a little acetone to the red mark going through the "TE" of STATES, I think it's from a marker. The area at the "ST" of STATES could be PSD, a struck through or maybe even a Blow Hole that has smoothed over (http://www.error-ref.com/ragged-perforations/) . The area at the "N" of UNUM could be a struck through (http://www.error-ref.com/?s=struck+through) or a Lamination that has fallen off (http://www.error-ref.com/?s=lamination) . All this is just conjecture but will give you some good reading!

[Petespockets55]

When I enlarge the first image, the red mark seems to be separated from the other metal.
Wondering if this could be a retained struck through copper fragment or lamination if it was part of the Planchet but has been exposed because of wear?

[jfines69]

I'm in with PSD... Good call... The circ wear has worn things down a bit!!!

[Dearing]

When I enlarge the first image, the red mark seems to be separated from the other metal.
Wondering if this could be a retained struck through copper fragment or lamination if it was part of the Planchet but has been exposed because of wear?

Finally got a better pic of this one with the new scope, I think that might be a copper fragment, as you stated.... acetone wont take it off

[GrumpyEd]

It looks like a stain or something stuck to the coin.

These war nickels were not clad or plated and there was no copper layer. The metal is an alloy.
If there was a copper fragment there then it would probably cross the letters, plus there was no copper layer for it to come from.

Acetone takes some stuff off but not everything, it's probably something that acetone does not take off that is stuck there, something soft enough that it wore off the high spots on the letters.

Even if it was copper, it wouldn't be valuable to me and where would it come from?
With that in mind if it was mine I'd put in my regular war time nickel pile.
Probably not much to lose by scraping at it but that's destructive if it was some copper thing but I doubt it was.

[Dearing]

It looks like a stain or something stuck to the coin.

These war nickels were not clad or plated and there was no copper layer. The metal is an alloy.
If there was a copper fragment there then it would probably cross the letters, plus there was no copper layer for it to come from.

Acetone takes some stuff off but not everything, it's probably something that acetone does not take off that is stuck there, something soft enough that it wore off the high spots on the letters.

Even if it was copper, it wouldn't be valuable to me and where would it come from?
With that in mind if it was mine I'd put in my regular war time nickel pile.
Probably not much to lose by scraping at it but that's destructive if it was some copper thing but I doubt it was.

Yeah, I see what yr saying... it just appears to be on top of the silver but it would make sense for it to have crossed the devices too I tried very aggressively with my fingers with the acetone to rub it off to no avail. I know it aint worth anything, I just enjoy the task of figuring out when what and how it happened lol Thank you for yr help, it prolly is some type of stain of some sorts

[Petespockets55]

Excellent new image Dearing.
My bad, because I think I only did a quick look at the closeup image of the anomaly and didn't even realize it was a war nickel!

With that said, I agree there shouldn't have been any copper in the planchet but the new image real clear and appears to show copper "curling" up the sides of T E from the field. It isn't on the face but could easily have worn away from the heavy circulation this coin has been through. there even appear to be die flow lines on the copper "color".

I also agree this in this condition it has minimal value but it is definitely worth hanging onto IMHO. It's not very often you see copper on a war nickel.

[Dearing]

Excellent new image Dearing.
My bad, because I think I only did a quick look at the closeup image of the anomaly and didn't even realize it was a war nickel!

With that said, I agree there shouldn't have been any copper in the planchet but the new image real clear and appears to show copper "curling" up the sides of T E from the field. It isn't on the face but could easily have worn away from the heavy circulation this coin has been through. there even appear to be die flow lines on the copper "color".

I also agree this in this condition it has minimal value but it is definitely worth hanging onto IMHO. It's not very often you see copper on a war nickel.

Thank you on the pic, I do like this newer scope lol Thats interesting on yr assessment, I am going to hold onto it, I do most, just in case lol thank you

[jfines69]

Awesome new pic... Looks like a struck thru copper fragment... Looks like it is a really thin piece of copper... Cool!!!

Added - To bad it's not a lincoln - I could put it into Error Attributions - Struck Though!!!

[GrumpyEd]

Awesome new pic... Looks like a struck thru copper fragment... Looks like it is a really thin piece of copper... Cool!!!

Added - To bad it's not a lincoln - I could put it into Error Attributions - Struck Though!!!

If you look at the full coin shot, the entire lower edge of the building looks the same.
I think it is a stain.

It might help if there was a close up of the lower edge of the building.

[Dearing]

If you look at the full coin shot, the entire lower edge of the building looks the same.
I think it is a stain.

It might help if there was a close up of the lower edge of the building.

Here are a couple of close ups, I think that was just how I had my lighting, oh lighting you are my full fledged enemy lol

[GrumpyEd]

It doesn't show the same under the building in the new pics but looks the same in the other one.

A stain (of anything) can act similar to regular toning (from oxide), making the light refract different and making something look a different color like rainbows are made.

Check out this thread on CU about toning/colors:

https://forums.collectors.com/discussion/708296/towards-an-understanding-of-the-color-progression-on-toned-coins

[jfines69]

It doesn't show the same under the building in the new pics but looks the same in the other one.

A stain (of anything) can act similar to regular toning (from oxide), making the light refract different and making something look a different color like rainbows are made.

Check out this thread on CU about toning/colors:

https://forums.collectors.com/discus...on-toned-coins

I really like the links to the toned coins... Those are awesome... Very interesting read... It has been a while since I have seen any of that info... Thanks Ed!!!

[jfines69]

The area on the base looked like light reflection to me but Ed knows much more about the silver than I do so I could very easily be wrong... On what I think is a retained struck thru I do not think it is a stain especially the area between the T E... The north edge of the anomaly appears curled slightly as if it is coming loose... If you redo that close up with light from a different angle it may show us some thing totally different???