My second post as a new person, 2017p dime with a cud? On the top& bottom of the torc

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  • Jks.coincents
    Member
    • May 2019
    • 32

    #1

    My second post as a new person, 2017p dime with a cud? On the top& bottom of the torc

    The dime has a cud? On the top of the torch, and the bottom band of the torch, also, I have identified cuds on the leafs, stems and other places of the reverse, on the obverse, there's a cud on the side of the mouth, in the nostril, and two in the hair on the side of the head, I think to say that the dime has a broad stroke error, a partial double rim, and maybe, a D/D reverse? But that one I'm not sure about, nevertheless, I need help identifying the cuds, and am I using the right definition for a cud, because I was under the impression that cuds where only on the sides of the rim? Any feedback from the knowledgeable coin community will be greatly appreciated, Thank You. The pictures are in no way as good as seeing the coin.h
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  • VAB2013
    Forum Ambassador
    • Nov 2013
    • 12351

    #2
    Thank you for your post Jks.coincents! We will ask Jim to move your thread to Off Topic Discussion since it's a dime and not a Lincoln. That way you will get more looks and help from people who know! Sorry but I'm not very knowledgeable with dimes

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    • willbrooks
      Die & Design Expert, LCF Glossary Author

      • Jan 2012
      • 9472

      #3
      Here are some definitions for you.

      Cud: A rim to rim die break, resulting in a piece of the die breaking off and falling out. The coins struck by such a die will exhibit a “blob” of raised metal along the rim where the normal design element should be. Cuds are always connected to the rim, else they are called interior die breaks. Due to the missing chunk in the die, the opposite side of the coin will exhibit a weakly struck area as shown in the 2nd photo below. Please visit cuds-on-coins.com for cud listings and attributions.


      Die Chip: When a piece of the die breaks and falls off, the subsequent coins struck by that die will show a raised unstruck portion that usually looks like a “blob” of extra metal on the coin. This is simply from the metal flowing into the opening in the die during the strike.


      I'm not saying this is what they all are. If they are all raised, then all it can basically be is some dings in the die, or something adhered to the coin.
      All opinions expressed are not necessarily shared by willbrooks or his affiliates. Taking them may result in serious side effects. Results may vary. Offer not valid in New Jersey.

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      • Jks.coincents
        Member
        • May 2019
        • 32

        #4
        Thanks VAB2013, I honestly didn't know that you were only able to get advice on Lincoln cents, unless you use the off topics discussion tool, thanks for the heads up on the way to get it to your specific coin questions, outside of the Lincoln cents coins, and still, I now have a clearer understanding of the difference between cuds and die chips, thanks alot.

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        • VAB2013
          Forum Ambassador
          • Nov 2013
          • 12351

          #5
          You're welcome Jks.coincents - Off Topic is just a way to try and keep stuff neat and tidy - there are members here with knowledge in other denominations and foreign coins to help with those questions!

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          • jfines69
            Paid Member

            • Jun 2010
            • 28588

            #6
            Pretty good pics for a 2nd post... Die chips... Cuds On Coins (COC) has a bunch of listed cuds but also covers a wide range of other die errors such as rim to rim die cracks... I moved your thread to Off Topic Discussion... Since we are the Lincoln Cent Forum it is just a matter of keeping Lincolns at the fore front... Most everyone here searchers other denominations of coins including foreign and don't forget other forms of money although I have never tried searching cows or chickens since they have not been used for barter in the U.S. for some time now Hope that helps a bit!!!
            Jim
            (A.K.A. Elmer Fudd) Be verwy verwy quiet... I'm hunting coins!!! Good Hunting!!!

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            • Jks.coincents
              Member
              • May 2019
              • 32

              #7
              Your funny, Lol, Thanks alot, Lord knows we need a laugh or two every now and then, but seriously speaking, I am just reading and listening to the advice of the people who I want to be like, I try to study everything dealing with coins, from taking pictures of them, to their history, and the historical time's that their associated with, and it's a life long task, only the true at heart can say that they love it, and see coins as more than just money. Anyway, thanks again, it's always good to hear from you guys. Later.

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              • jfines69
                Paid Member

                • Jun 2010
                • 28588

                #8
                Originally posted by Jks.coincents
                Your funny, Lol, Thanks alot, Lord knows we need a laugh or two every now and then, but seriously speaking, I am just reading and listening to the advice of the people who I want to be like, I try to study everything dealing with coins, from taking pictures of them, to their history, and the historical time's that their associated with, and it's a life long task, only the true at heart can say that they love it, and see coins as more than just money. Anyway, thanks again, it's always good to hear from you guys. Later.
                Always glad to be a smart a$% Sounds like you will fit in fairly well around here... A lot of the folks here have the same passion as you including ancient coins and tokens, just to name a couple of passions, and the history behind them!!!
                Jim
                (A.K.A. Elmer Fudd) Be verwy verwy quiet... I'm hunting coins!!! Good Hunting!!!

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