1964D Quarter "Shiny" counterfeit???

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  • Dearing
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    • Sep 2018
    • 988

    #1

    1964D Quarter "Shiny" counterfeit???

    Does anyone know what's up with this shiny 1964D quarter? I've never run across one this shiny, could it be electroplated, counterfeit or just shiny?
    ...I read they had a special struck with a special finish but somehow this one just looks odd, like it's a cheap knock off or something but I found myself checking the lettering and other things, it seems to match... It appears to have a die crack running all the way down the wing on he left side of the coin all the way to the Q in QUARTER. Maybe this one was cleaned or something? Maybe it's just shiny lol Any help or ideas what may be going on here is greatly appreciated
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  • GrumpyEd
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    • Jan 2013
    • 7229

    #2
    It's real.

    Maybe the toning is getting your attention.
    With 90% is if it was ever dipped or cleaned to be pure white then later they tend to tone with color.
    Hard to say if it's an unc or almost unc or if it was dipped or cleaned up to remove toning and re-toned.
    I would look at it as nice silver quarter, the grade won't matter since it's like bullion worth the 90% silver price same as the one next to it.

    Quarters are my least favorite thing to grade, lots of ones that look high grade to me will grade lower than I expect then the key dates like 32-d and 32-s always grade way higher than I would guess so I've learned not to try guessing the grades on em

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    • Dearing
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      • Sep 2018
      • 988

      #3
      Originally posted by GrumpyEd
      It's real.

      Maybe the toning is getting your attention.
      With 90% is if it was ever dipped or cleaned to be pure white then later they tend to tone with color.
      Hard to say if it's an unc or almost unc or if it was dipped or cleaned up to remove toning and re-toned.
      I would look at it as nice silver quarter, the grade won't matter since it's like bullion worth the 90% silver price same as the one next to it.

      Quarters are my least favorite thing to grade, lots of ones that look high grade to me will grade lower than I expect then the key dates like 32-d and 32-s always grade way higher than I would guess so I've learned not to try guessing the grades on em
      Oh ok, it come incased in a 3rd party silver set I got a long while back... maybe it toned after all those years of being in that case, I cracked the casing so I just took everything out lol Thank ya Ed

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      • GrumpyEd
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        • Jan 2013
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        #4
        I wouldn't be surprised if those sets were dipped.
        Dipping silver is pretty accepted, they still can grade, even TPGs do it.
        When they make those sets they might want them to look fresh and blast white.

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        • Dearing
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          • Sep 2018
          • 988

          #5
          Originally posted by GrumpyEd
          I wouldn't be surprised if those sets were dipped.
          Dipping silver is pretty accepted, they still can grade, even TPGs do it.
          When they make those sets they might want them to look fresh and blast white.
          I bet yr absolutely right on that, dipped is what I would think it looks like, thanks again

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          • Petespockets55
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            • Dec 2014
            • 6890

            #6
            What does the edge look like?
            Can you see the copper core?

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            • GrumpyEd
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              • Jan 2013
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              #7
              Can you see the copper core?
              It is 90% silver not clad so there is no copper core

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              • Petespockets55
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                • Dec 2014
                • 6890

                #8
                Originally posted by GrumpyEd
                It is 90% silver not clad so there is no copper core
                LOL. Oh yeah, duuuuh!
                Sometimes I forget the more basic lessons in the class CoinCollecting-101. Like, what is the composition?

                It has a bumpy texture to the surface that reminded me of plated coins and I got the not-to-bright idea to check the rim.

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                • jfines69
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                  • Jun 2010
                  • 28848

                  #9
                  Originally posted by Petespockets55
                  LOL. Oh yeah, duuuuh!
                  Sometimes I forget the more basic lessons in the class CoinCollecting-101. Like, what is the composition?

                  It has a bumpy texture to the surface that reminded me of plated coins and I got the not-to-bright idea to check the rim.
                  They are not plated either but clad!!!
                  Jim
                  (A.K.A. Elmer Fudd) Be verwy verwy quiet... I'm hunting coins!!! Good Hunting!!!

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                  • jfines69
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                    • Jun 2010
                    • 28848

                    #10
                    Don't forget to check out of few things on your 64 quarters - Type B rev, Error Ref info, Wexlers and some info from VV... VV doesn't have the design variety pages for the Washington 25c completed but there are links to listings for different items ... Nice looking 25c... Let us know what you find out!!!


                    Added - I have a bunch of silver coins of different denominations that came out of a presentation for american coins... All of them had been cleaned and polished including an 1881 morgan!!!
                    Last edited by jfines69; 06-25-2019, 02:33 PM.
                    Jim
                    (A.K.A. Elmer Fudd) Be verwy verwy quiet... I'm hunting coins!!! Good Hunting!!!

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                    • Petespockets55
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                      • Dec 2014
                      • 6890

                      #11
                      Correcto-mundo.
                      They aren't usually plated. But I thought someone may have tried plating it outside the mint to mimic an MS coin.
                      You know, like the way they re-plate 1943 steel cents.

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                      • makecents
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                        • Jun 2017
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                        #12
                        Originally posted by Petespockets55
                        Correcto-mundo.
                        They aren't usually plated. But I thought someone may have tried plating it outside the mint to mimic an MS coin.
                        You know, like the way they re-plate 1943 steel cents.
                        I'm not following what you two are talking about. Pre 1965 silver coins made for circulation are 90% silver 10% copper, all melted together, no layers, no cladding. That would include dimes, quarters, halves and dollars.

                        I forgot to add 1942-45 35% silver war nickels and the 1851-73 75% silver 3 cent piece.
                        Last edited by makecents; 06-25-2019, 06:06 PM.

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                        • jfines69
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                          • Jun 2010
                          • 28848

                          #13
                          Originally posted by makecents
                          I'm not following what you two are talking about. Pre 1965 silver coins made for circulation are 90% silver 10% copper, all melted together, no layers, no cladding. That would include dimes, quarters, halves and dollars.

                          I forgot to add 1942-45 35% silver war nickels and the 1851-73 75% silver 3 cent piece.
                          They are clad after 64 for the 10c, 25c, 50c coins!!!
                          Jim
                          (A.K.A. Elmer Fudd) Be verwy verwy quiet... I'm hunting coins!!! Good Hunting!!!

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                          • jfines69
                            Member
                            • Jun 2010
                            • 28848

                            #14
                            Originally posted by Petespockets55
                            Correcto-mundo.
                            They aren't usually plated. But I thought someone may have tried plating it outside the mint to mimic an MS coin.
                            You know, like the way they re-plate 1943 steel cents.
                            Now I understand... Maybe
                            Jim
                            (A.K.A. Elmer Fudd) Be verwy verwy quiet... I'm hunting coins!!! Good Hunting!!!

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