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Ok, it looks like it has been polished because of the lines. But, there are also lines because of worn die. It also looks pitted. The clad seems to be showing through. The edge on both sides of the coin has some clad on it with spots worn off. It does not look polished off. The high points on the reverse doesn’t have as much clad missing as the space below. (I’m drawing a blank on the word) C29D8E54-040E-4571-AD79-F47FC57822B2.jpg 8BCBE432-8370-4B1F-A55A-C92927B081F2.jpg 586C1108-512D-4235-B760-D654B0146BE1.jpg
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Sounds like you're thinking of the clad as being like plating.
It's not like that, it's 3 thick layers like a sandwich.
If you started sanding away either side, all of the design will be gone before you get to the copper center layer.
That coin might have been discolored from being in the ground, what you see is probably areas where the discoloring is wearing off showing through and you see some CN color mixed with the discolored color.
Almost looks buried twice, once then sanded to clean it up then dropped again so it's discolored in the sanding marks.
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I still wonder why they made clad the way they do.
I think they were trying to not use silver and get a weight in a similar enough range to work in vending machines and look silver color.
The reason it seems funny to me is that they already made silver color copper/nickel coins (nickels and flying eagle cents) and they worked fine using an alloy so why not use the same mix as the layers in the clad dimes/quarters/halves and make an alloy and use that, why go through the trouble of making clad in layers?
It wasn't simple, it was complicated. They didn't just put the layers together and smash it, they wanted it bonded together. They had Dupont invent a method of making it and they did it by using explosives that go off and blast/bond the layers together called "Dataclad". They may still do it that way.
Seems like a complicated solution to a simple problem.
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That is very interesting. If I can find a kind it, I would like to read on that.I still wonder why they made clad the way they do.
I think they were trying to not use silver and get a weight in a similar enough range to work in vending machines and look silver color.
The reason it seems funny to me is that they already made silver color copper/nickel coins (nickels and flying eagle cents) and they worked fine using an alloy so why not use the same mix as the layers in the clad dimes/quarters/halves and make an alloy and use that, why go through the trouble of making clad in layers?
It wasn't simple, it was complicated. They didn't just put the layers together and smash it, they wanted it bonded together. They had Dupont invent a method of making it and they did it by using explosives that go off and blast/bond the layers together called "Dataclad". TheSeems like a complicated solution to a simple problem.Last edited by Sheila ruley; 10-23-2019, 04:53 AM.Comment
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There is one consistent thing with the clad coins, they are reeded. Would that have anything to do with it?I still wonder why they made clad the way they do.
I think they were trying to not use silver and get a weight in a similar enough range to work in vending machines and look silver color.
The reason it seems funny to me is that they already made silver color copper/nickel coins (nickels and flying eagle cents) and they worked fine using an alloy so why not use the same mix as the layers in the clad dimes/quarters/halves and make an alloy and use that, why go through the trouble of making clad in layers?
It wasn't simple, it was complicated. They didn't just put the layers together and smash it, they wanted it bonded together. They had Dupont invent a method of making it and they did it by using explosives that go off and blast/bond the layers together called "Dataclad". They may still do it that way.
Seems like a complicated solution to a simple problem.Comment
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Sheila, Here's a neat article:
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I don't know, I just thought maybe the two things were related. I agree with what you are saying and don't understand either. Do you know why we have reeded coins, does it help with durability or is it maybe just part of the design that was decided on?
Before I posted this, I thought I would see what I could find on the net. Here are a few fun facts. One of the earliest forms of anti counterfeiting and also tell if the coin had lost any of it's precious metal. This still does not answer the question though...
LINK (https://www.thesprucecrafts.com/reed...inition-768474)Comment
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I think 2 reasons.Do you know why we have reeded coins, does it help with durability or is it maybe just part of the design that was decided on?
Even with bad vision or being blind people can tell a cent from a dime or a quarter from a nickel but the main reason was to stop people from shaving the edge off of gold or silver coins. If it wasn't used, people could have got a bunch of coins, shaved some from each coin even a few grains and put together a sack of gold or silver dust and the coins would slowly be destroyed over time. Pretty much like the article said
Maybe today they could be eliminated.Last edited by GrumpyEd; 10-23-2019, 01:32 PM.Comment
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Very interesting Articles. Thank you.Comment
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It seems to me that the clad was issued the way it was to tell the silver from the copper/ nickel with ease. Much like putting the arrows on the seated coins when the weights changed so they could easily recall the coins they wanted to pull back in? That is the way we search them and often get a Canadian confused for a silver dime.Even a fool can look wise if he keeps his mouth closed.Comment
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The one difference is the arrows were used since the same year/date had different silver content.
On clads they could tell from the date. It might be true, if they wanted to be able to pull silver by looking at the edges but I've never heard that the feds did that. It's still a mystery to me why they need explosive bonded clad now 55 years later instead of an alloy.
Interesting wiki thing about the change in 65. To me the neatest thing is that they really did make 300,000 1964 peace dollars and not a single one exists, none escaped the mint.
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I remember a few years ago when the Daniel Carr overstrikes came out, it was all the rage in the silver dollar world.The one difference is the arrows were used since the same year/date had different silver content.
On clads they could tell from the date. It might be true, if they wanted to be able to pull silver by looking at the edges but I've never heard that the feds did that. It's still a mystery to me why they need explosive bonded clad now 55 years later instead of an alloy.
Interesting wiki thing about the change in 65. To me the neatest thing is that they really did make 300,000 1964 peace dollars and not a single one exists, none escaped the mint.
https://www.pcgs.com/top100/reward
LINK (https://www.greatcollections.com/Coi...r-Signed-Label)Comment
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