1943 P FS101 nickel?

[makecents]

I'm a bit out of my comfort zone on this one. The coin has extreme die and circulation wear and was wondering if most of the minor doubling cannot be seen or if this is just not the variety.

DDO-003 (http://varietyvista.com/04a%20JN%20D...943PDDO003.htm)


Thanks for looking and any help.
Jon.

[mustbebob]

I don't think I would even consider this one the variety without something more substantial. There is just too much wear on it.

[makecents]

I don't think I would even consider this one the variety without something more substantial. There is just too much wear on it.

Thank you Bob!! You told me what I needed to know. I'm not so sure that what looks like the overdate is nothing more than damage too.

[jfines69]

Interesting... Can you get pics of the other devices??? The 5s DDs for Wexlers numbers are listed on Brians Varieties and here are the 1943s... I did not notice that hook on the 3 in any of the other listings... WDDO-001 crosses to VVs 003!!!

[Petespockets55]

I don't do nickels either but saw a post on CCF within the past two weeks about this variety and it was mentioned this is a desirable variety in just about any condition.

The 2 looks fairly strong even though the grade isn't very high.

[makecents]

Interesting... Can you get pics of the other devices??? The 5s DDs for Wexlers numbers are listed on Brians Varieties and here are the 1943s... I did not notice that hook on the 3 in any of the other listings... WDDO-001 crosses to VVs 003!!!

I have actually dropped it into a large lot of nickels that I'm getting rid of, because I was not at all comfortable with calling it a variety. I looked at the other listings on VV and there were some familiar but nothing I felt matched.

The variety that I originally thought it to be, is a cool variety though, having an Overdate, DDO and DDR! It's odd how Dr. Wiles has it listed though. Stage A, as unconfirmed, with the DDR not being listed in this particular stage. So I don't know if that means that the original DDO found didn't have the DDR (a different reverse die) or that there may have never been a Stage A found at all to confirm this. There were a couple of DDO listings that were similar enough, that made me wonder if they could be the same DDO without the Overdate and I'm not sure if that is even possible.

[makecents]

I don't do nickels either but saw a post on CCF within the past two weeks about this variety and it was mentioned this is a desirable variety in just about any condition.

The 2 looks fairly strong even though the grade isn't very high.

Yes sir, that was the only reason I even took time to post on here. I was familiar with the variety but had never seen one in hand. I am now thinking that what I thought was an overdate, is nothing more than well placed damage.

[jfines69]

Like Bob stated the circ wear would make it difficult to verify as the DDO without something else more substantial... The unconfirmed Stage A DDO may be there has been no coin submitted with the DDR-002... The DDO and DDR both start at Stage B... Hope that helps a bit!!!

[stoneman227]

Morning Jon !
You do have the 1943/2 overdate.
If you look at the inside bottom curve of the 3 you will see the horizontal bottom of the 2. The angled part of the 2 is pointed in the correct direction as well. In contrast, here is a die that mimics the overdate.

https://www.coincommunity.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=362906&SearchTerms=1943/2

There is no evidence of the bottom horizontal of the 2 and the angled line mimicking the 2 is pointed too far north.
Excellent find, Congrats !
John

[stoneman227]

Sry, duplicate post

[stoneman227]

Oh my , I just read that you were getting rid of it , bummer.

John

[makecents]

Oh my , I just read that you were getting rid of it , bummer.

John

Hey John, thanks for checking it out and for your input, I always appreciate it!! I was just going to toss it on the bay but not real comfortable with doing it in it's condition and the feedback I got, I'm a little finicky about what I put on there. I just tossed it in a lot of nickels I had planned on selling. If you don't have this variety and would like it just PM me with your address and I'll send it out, it's not in great condition but you are more than welcome to it.

[jfines69]

Morning Jon !
You do have the 1943/2 overdate.
If you look at the inside bottom curve of the 3 you will see the horizontal bottom of the 2. The angled part of the 2 is pointed in the correct direction as well. In contrast, here is a die that mimics the overdate.

https://www.coincommunity.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=362906&SearchTerms=1943/2

There is no evidence of the bottom horizontal of the 2 and the angled line mimicking the 2 is pointed too far north.
Excellent find, Congrats !
John

Thanks for the input and link... Glad to see you still with us!!!

[stoneman227]

Hey John, thanks for checking it out and for your input, I always appreciate it!! I was just going to toss it on the bay but not real comfortable with doing it in it's condition and the feedback I got, I'm a little finicky about what I put on there. I just tossed it in a lot of nickels I had planned on selling. If you don't have this variety and would like it just PM me with your address and I'll send it out, it's not in great condition but you are more than welcome to it.

Bless you Jon but I already have an example of that die that I found years ago.

John

[stoneman227]

Thanks for the input and link... Glad to see you still with us!!!

Hey Jim , I'm still kicking !
I just don't have as much time for fun lately. Alot of family obligations and a honey do list that I swear is the origin of the mythical Hydra!

John