The First Steps to Proper Coin Conservation

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  • BadThad
    Member
    • Jan 2009
    • 3010

    #1

    The First Steps to Proper Coin Conservation

    Many collectors make the mistake of cleaning a coin when attempting to conserve it properly. The internet is full of bad suggestions and advice. So, not only is the collector who commits the sin to blame, but so are the supposed "experts" offering bad advice. The bottomline, most people should NEVER attempt to conserve their own coins. Leave conservation to the experts like NCS.

    There is a huge difference between cleaning and conservation. Cleaning is a very harsh process that is not recommended for ANY coin. It will leave obvious signs behind that any good numismatist can spot. Conservation is a delicate process that is performed with the utmost care. It involves scientific methods that generally do not destroy or alter the coin’s natural patina or leave behind obvious signs of damage. It is important to differentiate between the two and the terms should never used interchangeably. Cleaning = Bad, Conservation = Acceptable. Professional companies who specialize in conservation, such as NCS (Numismatic Conservation Services), are not considered coin cleaners. I don’t think they’d get much business if their company name was Numismatic Cleaning Services! Every collector I’ve met despises cleaned coins.

    ALWAYS practice conservation techniques on non-valuable coins BEFORE you ruin your valuable coin! Far too many rare coins have been completely ruined by inexperienced collectors seeking the “quick fix”. Once you’ve crossed the line from conservation to cleaning, there is no turning back! The coin has been ruined and will be worth even less than it was with the problem. You cannot undo something that has already been done. If you’re not 100% confident in what you are doing, don’t do it. Send your coin to conservation professional. Conservation is not a guessing game. It’s a scientific, calculated approach and with lots of experience you will become confident in your conservation skills. Just like anything else in life, it just takes a lot of practice. Once you are confident that you can reasonably predict the outcome on any given coin, then you are ready to conserve.
    Nonetheless, some coins can be helped when great care is used. Also, some coins are not of sufficent value to justify paying NCS to perform a proper conservation. Unfortunately, available methods for safe home conservation are very limited. Using coin cleaners and harsh methods usually produce unacceptable results. To help out people looking to "clean" their coins, I always recommend a very conservative approach with something I call the Solvent Polarity Ladder.

    In chemistry (I am a chemist) we often classify solvents by a property known as polarity. Basically, it's a measure of the charge differential across the solvent molecule. The greater the charge differential, the greater the polarity, i.e. lots of positive charge on one end and lots of negative charge on the other. Another principle in chemistry is "like dissolves like". Therefore, if you have a coin surface residue that matches the polarity of the solvent, chances are high that it will be removed.

    This is what I recommend people do. Soak the coin for 10 minutes using each of the following solvents in order. For example, start with water for 10 minutes, remove the coin and let dry. The ladder covers a wide range of polarities.

    1) distilled or deionized water
    2) acetone (do not use fingernail polish remover)
    3) xylene

    If the problem has not been resolved after trying each of these solvents, try reversing the order next, i.e. move back to acetone and then water. Sometimes residues are varied, you might have a non-polar residue on top of the polar reside....when that happens, running the reverse ladder can be effective.

    If the problem still persists, try increasing the soak times to 24 hours in each solvent. That is about the maximum time I ever recommend soaking a coin because it's possible to produce some adverse effects on the patina with over-soaking. Also, be sure to tightly seal the soaking containers so your solvents do not evaporate!! This is VERY important because you'll just redeposit the dissolved residue back on the coin if the solvent evaporates.

    Going beyond the method I've outlined is risky and you'd better be prepared for the negative consequences. It's a common mistake to use harsh solvents recommended on the internet like catsup, lemon juice, baking soda, olive oil, etc. If you do these things, you're going to have a cleaned and damaged coin when you're done.

    GOOD LUCK
    Last edited by jfines69; 01-29-2018, 04:00 AM. Reason: Added book quote, Corrected spelling
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  • centsible
    Banned
    • Sep 2012
    • 50

    #2
    I just left my gratitude back in the cavern.

    Just retrieved some gratitude, thank you, again. This is such valuable information, especially coming from a chemist.
    Last edited by centsible; 09-26-2012, 07:09 AM. Reason: Add thanks

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    • Magers
      Member
      • Feb 2012
      • 889

      #3
      When first starting out I scoured the internet looking for helpful suggestions to improve the appearance of my circulated coins. This is among the most helpful threads to novice and experienced collectors alike. Thanks Thad.

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      • wallendusty

        #4
        Originally posted by BadThad
        Many collectors make the mistake of cleaning a coin when attempting to conserve it properly. The internet is full of bad suggestions and advice. So, not only is the collector who commits the sin to blame, but so are the supposed "experts" offering bad advice. The bottomline, most people should NEVER attempt to conserve their own coins. Leave conservation to the experts like NCS.

        Nonetheless, some coins can be helped when great care is used. Also, some coins are not of sufficent value to justify paying NCS to perform a proper conservation. Unfortunately, available methods for safe home conservation are very limited. Using coin cleaners and harsh methods usually produce unacceptable results. To help out people looking to "clean" their coins, I always recommend a very conservative approach with something I call the solvent polarity ladder.

        In chemistry (I am a chemist) we often classify solvents by a property known as polarity. Basically, it's a measure of the charge differential across the solvent molecule. The greater the charge differential, the greater the polarity, i.e. lots of positive charge on one end and lots of negative charge on the other. Another principle in chemistry is "like dissolves like". Therefore, if you have a coin surface residue that matches the polarity of the solvent, chances are high that it will be removed.

        This is what I recommend people do. Soak the coin for 10 minutes using each of the following solvents in order. For example, start with water for 10 minutes, remove the coin and let dry. The ladder covers a wide range of polarities.

        1) distilled or deionized water
        2) acetone (do not use fingernail polish remover)
        3) xylene

        If the problem has not been resolved after trying each of these solvents, try reversing the order next, i.e. move back to acetone and then water. Sometimes residues are varied, you might have a non-polar residue on top of the polar reside....when that happens, running the reverse ladder can be effective.

        If the problem still persists, try increasing the soak times to 24 hours in each solvent. That is about the maximum time I ever recommend soaking a coin because it's possible to produce some adverse effects on the patina with over-soaking. Also, be sure to tightly seal the soaking containers so your solvents do not evaporate!! This is VERY important because you'll just redeposit the dissolved residue back on the coin.

        Going beyond the method I've outlined is risky and you'd better be prepared for the negative consequences. It's a common mistake to use harsh solvents recommended on the internet like catsup, lemon juice, baking soda, olive oil, etc. If you do these things, be prepared to have a cleaned coin when you done.

        GOOD LUCK
        Very good information. If only we would listen. Awesome though for us all.

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        • ShyCent

          #5
          Great advice to not only a beginner like me, but to any serious numismatist.

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          • onecent1909
            Wrong Design Die Expert
            • Feb 2012
            • 2597

            #6
            I will try this on some of my coins I have...I have always left them alone and said "I will try latter.." now may be the time...THANK YOU
            Member: Florida State representative for the ANA, Florida state representative for CONECA, F.U.N. and the Ocala Coin Club

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            • lonegunlawyer

              #7
              By my forum name, it could be reasonably guessed I am not a chemist, but I have played amateur chemist since Saturday.

              Well, I learned quickly (yes, it is permissible to laugh) that acetone and certain plastics/rubbers do not mix well. Acetone dissolves at least some rubbers and plastics. I will use glass in the future.

              PS make sure your lid does not have a rubber seal.

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              • Brad
                Founder: Lincoln Cent Resource

                • Nov 2007
                • 4949

                #8
                Thad, some dealers have suggested using Olive Oil. Just curious on your opinions of that.
                Brad
                Lincoln Cent Resource
                My PCGS Registry

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                • copperlover

                  #9
                  Great advice Thad We shouldn't forget to use the appropriate goggles and mask for acetone and xylene.

                  Lucien

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                  • seal006
                    Member
                    • Jun 2010
                    • 2330

                    #10
                    Originally posted by Brad
                    Thad, some dealers have suggested using Olive Oil. Just curious on your opinions of that.
                    Brad, I know you want Thad's opinion on this, but I had the same question before. I was told that olive oil is also acidic. Therefore it would not be good for the coin. The person I heard this from said he would only use olive oil on a dug coin that had no hope at all.

                    On a side note Thad knows I am one of his biggest fan's. I keep a good supply of Verdi-care on hand. Folks this stuff is THE BEST product I have ever used. Hands down.
                    "If Free Speech stops when someone gets offended, it is not really Free Speech."

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                    • Vickilynn
                      Member
                      • Jun 2012
                      • 728

                      #11
                      What is Verdi-care ? Vickilynn
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                      • heavencent

                        #12
                        This is such valuable information. I am afraid I have ruined some coins, but not anymore. Thank you.

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                        • BadThad
                          Member
                          • Jan 2009
                          • 3010

                          #13
                          Originally posted by Brad
                          Thad, some dealers have suggested using Olive Oil. Just curious on your opinions of that.

                          I am strongly against using any oil on coins (vegetable or petroleum) for many reasons. Here's the OO section from the book I'm working on (sorry, no pics though)....I'm willing to share it with the community because I think it's important.

                          As a result of its popularity, I have devoted a large section of this book to olive oil in order to help the layman understand how it works. Olive oil has been a long time favorite of collectors for the conservation of coins. You will read everywhere people recommending its use to remove coin surface contaminants. If used carefully, it has many advantages and I’ve seen collectors successfully conserve coins using EVO. On the flip side, I’ve also seen collectors damage their coins using it. The main problem with EVO is consistency from bottle to bottle. Since it is a natural product, the contents can vary greatly from batch to batch. EVO is made for eating and not for chemistry!

                          EVO is a mixture of many chemicals, mainly triglyceride which is three fatty acids attached to the glycerol molecule. Oleic acid (CH3(CH2)7CH=CH(CH2)7COOH) is present in high amounts in EVO, perhaps 50% or greater. Also present are Linoleic acid (< 10%) and Linolenic acid. There is also a small percentage of water. Being a natural product, it also contains other fatty acids, volatile organic compounds, vitamins, water- and oil-soluble organics compounds and finely ground olive. It’s quite a mixture! Here’s what some of the molecules look like in chemist speak:


                          Before we continue there are a couple terms that need to be defined for the layman:

                          LipophilicOil loving, molecules that tend to dissolve in oil are lipophilic.
                          HydrophilicWater loving, molecules that tend to dissolve in water are hydrophilic.
                          Proton – Hydrogen ion, Hydronium ion, H+ are all the same thing. Chemists like to keep you confused!

                          As far as verdigris removal with EVO, the primary mechanism is a reaction between the fatty acids and copper salts. Acids will release a proton (hydrogen ion) in solution. This is what makes the solution acidic. That proton is highly reactive and it will easily displace the copper salt anion through reduction. For example:


                          Copper Acetate + Hydrogen Ion ŕ Acetic Acid + Copper Ion

                          This reaction will occur with all of the copper salts previously discussed. As we can see, copper has been reduced, the verdigris component has been removed and solubilized as an acid. Another interesting reaction that seems to appear when using olive oil is the appearance of a subdued red patch under the verdigris. That red patch is a very thick layer of copper oxide (cuprous oxide).

                          It is important to note that we now have corrosive acetic acid in solution. As long as the solution remains acidic enough, the reaction will continue to drive toward the formation of acid. Unfortunately, the acid will also aid in the attack of the metallic coin surface. Given enough time, surface damage will occur.

                          There are a couple primary chemical mechanisms at work when you soak a coin in EVO.

                          1) Oil solvency (lipophilic property) – Oil is a solvent. It has the ability to dissolve “like” materials. This is the basic chemistry principle of “like dissolves like”. In its case, long-chain organic molecules (lipophilic molecules) will tend to move from the coin surface into the EVO solution. With respect to verdigris, the oil solvency factor will have very little effect because most of the verdigris composition is inorganic (no carbon atoms). Inorganic (no carbon) materials are hydrophilic and not lipophilic. To some degree, EVO will dissolve any unbonded acetate free radicals and bring them into solution due to the slightly lipophilic character of acetate.
                          2) Organic Acids – EVO contains organic acid molecules. As discussed above, those lipophilic organic acids are proton donors which serve to break the ionic bond of the copper salts.

                          The problems with using EVO are many fold:
                          • The acid-verdigris reaction process proceeds very slowly. The mobility of the free protons in an oil solution is very low. Just imagine if you dropped cork balls into a jar of water and into a jar of oil and then shook them side-by-side. In the water solution the ball would rapidly more around as you shook it. It the oil solution the ball would barely be moving as you shook it. This is why it can take months of soaking even a lightly infected verdigris coin in EVO before results are seen.
                          • EVO is natural so it degrades and goes rancid. Over a period of time the oil will oxidize and spoil as bacteria eat away at it and grow. It must be replaced frequently with fresh oil or the spoiled EVO may cause harm to the coin surface. The complex organic degradation products could prove to be quite harmful.
                          • The chemical composition and acids levels are inconsistent. Being a natural product, there is a lot of variation in the acidity, ingredients and contaminants. A bottle that has worked for the conservation of one coin may not be exactly the same in the next bottle.
                          • Acids are very corrosive to copper and the oil will solubilize some of the natural brown patina that has developed on a copper coin. Working together, both of these mechanisms may alter the coins appearance and may even permanently destroy the surface by pitting it.
                          • Once you apply any oil to a coin the only way to remove it is to use a non-polar solvent like xylene. Even then, you won't get full removal on a coin with corrosion because the oil and its impurities tend to get deep down into the corrosion. These impurities can actually act to accelerate the corrosion process and add to the damage. Assuming the oil doesn't produce the desired results (which it rarely does), you're now forced into using more/different treatments on the coin. A rule of thumb for successful conservation is LESS IS BETTER. The more things you try, the greater the chances you'll permanently damage your coin.
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                          • BadThad
                            Member
                            • Jan 2009
                            • 3010

                            #14
                            Originally posted by seal006
                            Brad, I know you want Thad's opinion on this, but I had the same question before. I was told that olive oil is also acidic. Therefore it would not be good for the coin. The person I heard this from said he would only use olive oil on a dug coin that had no hope at all.

                            On a side note Thad knows I am one of his biggest fan's. I keep a good supply of Verdi-care on hand. Folks this stuff is THE BEST product I have ever used. Hands down.
                            Olive oil on dug coins is fine, it usually does a decent job because it's so harsh. With dug coins you've got basically nothing to lose. You either have a chunk of crapola or a coin you can read.




                            ...and thanks for the kind words!
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                            • ShyCent

                              #15
                              Wonderful, Thad. This whole thread is a top 10.

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