1977 P MAD with folded metal or CUD?

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  • jfines69
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    • Jun 2010
    • 28848

    #16
    Here is a finned rim I found 2 years ago http://www.lincolncentforum.com/foru...ghlight=finned Not a major one but I was surprised to find it mostly in tact!!!
    Jim
    (A.K.A. Elmer Fudd) Be verwy verwy quiet... I'm hunting coins!!! Good Hunting!!!

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    • GrumpyEd
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      • Jan 2013
      • 7229

      #17
      Jim, Nice pics in that!

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      • makecents
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        • Jun 2017
        • 11038

        #18
        Originally posted by jfines69
        Here is a finned rim I found 2 years ago http://www.lincolncentforum.com/foru...ghlight=finned Not a major one but I was surprised to find it mostly in tact!!!
        Unbelievable pics and great find Jim!! Thanks for the link!

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        • jfines69
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          • Jun 2010
          • 28848

          #19
          That was some of my early tries with image stacking software!!!
          Jim
          (A.K.A. Elmer Fudd) Be verwy verwy quiet... I'm hunting coins!!! Good Hunting!!!

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          • makecents
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            • Jun 2017
            • 11038

            #20
            Jim, I just want to appoligize. I went back and read the different replies and somehow overlooked your question about seperation. Here are some pics and in my oppinion you nailed it on my coin. Thank you sir!!
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            • makecents
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              • Jun 2017
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              #21
              Ed, thank you for all of your help on this too!! Your expertise is always so appreciated!

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              • willbrooks
                Die & Design Expert, LCF Glossary Author

                • Jan 2012
                • 9477

                #22
                I have to strongly disagree with the folded over finned rim analysis on your coin. As Ed pointed out, a finned rim would not exhibit as that wide. In other words, a finned rim does not start in the middle of the rim. It would begin right along the edge, like the one Jim pictured in the other thread.
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                • makecents
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                  • Jun 2017
                  • 11038

                  #23
                  Originally posted by willbrooks
                  I have to strongly disagree with the folded over finned rim analysis on your coin. As Ed pointed out, a finned rim would not exhibit as that wide. In other words, a finned rim does not start in the middle of the rim. It would begin right along the edge, like the one Jim pictured in the other thread.
                  I guess I have totally misunderstood Will. Would you care to take a look at this coin in hand?

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                  • jfines69
                    Member
                    • Jun 2010
                    • 28848

                    #24
                    Excellent follow up pics Jon... Thanks... It appears to be solid along the edge where the separation would show if it were a folded over finned rim... I would have to say not a finned rim... Here is an article from coin talk on finned rims https://www.cointalk.com/threads/fin...h-post.290930/ some nice finned rim pics... Also a link to error ref http://www.error-ref.com/?s=Finned+rim If I read the definition correctly a finned rim can be located in a small area as exhibited on your coin??? Hopefully Will chimes back in!!!

                    Added - I reset your Mark as Best Answer!!!
                    Jim
                    (A.K.A. Elmer Fudd) Be verwy verwy quiet... I'm hunting coins!!! Good Hunting!!!

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                    • makecents
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                      • Jun 2017
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                      #25
                      Originally posted by jfines69
                      Excellent follow up pics Jon... Thanks... It appears to be solid along the edge where the separation would show if it were a folded over finned rim... I would have to say not a finned rim... Here is an article from coin talk on finned rims https://www.cointalk.com/threads/fin...h-post.290930/ some nice finned rim pics... Also a link to error ref http://www.error-ref.com/?s=Finned+rim If I read the definition correctly a finned rim can be located in a small area as exhibited on your coin??? Hopefully Will chimes back in!!!

                      Added - I reset your Mark as Best Answer!!!
                      Thank you sir!! Good links too!

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                      • jfines69
                        Member
                        • Jun 2010
                        • 28848

                        #26
                        Originally posted by makecents
                        Thank you sir!! Good links too!
                        I had to google it to find the references... I couldn't find my links... Hope that info helped a bit!!!
                        Jim
                        (A.K.A. Elmer Fudd) Be verwy verwy quiet... I'm hunting coins!!! Good Hunting!!!

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                        • VAB2013
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                          • Nov 2013
                          • 12351

                          #27
                          Sorry but I got lost and just now found this thread again! Jon thank you for this thread, it explains a lot! And with Ed, Jim and Will's help on this one (and Jim's finned rim in his linked thread) things started to make sense to me! So your coin is not a finned rim. Seems like finned rims would be hard to see after being in circulation for awhile. Maybe that's why we don't see enough of them to try to figure them out?

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                          • Coin5
                            Member
                            • Jun 2018
                            • 419

                            #28
                            Jon, I think you may have a rim cud here. I think you should submit it to JC and see what he says.

                            Thanks,
                            Adrian

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