1982P (DDO or Die Deterioration) ?

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  • AstroRaider
    Member
    • Feb 2010
    • 882

    #1

    1982P (DDO or Die Deterioration) ?

    Here is an example of a 1982P Lincoln Cent. While it appears to be a DDO, I wonder if it is just die deterioration. What do you think?

    1982P date.jpg 1982P closeup of 8.jpg 1982P LIBERTY.jpg 1982P closeup of LIB.jpg 1982P GOD WE TRUST.jpg 1982P closeup of E.jpg
    Allan (AstroRaider) White
    "I want to know why the universe exists, why there is something greater than nothing." Stephen Hawking
  • VAB2013
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    • Nov 2013
    • 12351

    #2
    Part of what I'm seeing, best way I can describe it is... it looks like the vertical and horizontal devices are sunken in in the middle with raised edges on each side. Is that what you are seeing? The reason I ask this is... I have noticed this before and wondered if it was just lighting and my scope. But, your photos are very good and show it better!

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    • enamel7
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      • Apr 2009
      • 4047

      #3
      The extra thickness is actually on a lower level surrounding the devices. Due to that it has to be deterioration.

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      • makecents
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        • Jun 2017
        • 11038

        #4
        Is it zinc?

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        • VAB2013
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          • Nov 2013
          • 12351

          #5
          Originally posted by makecents
          Is it zinc?
          Yes, I see split plating on the 2 and above the T of Trust, unless that's leftover Jolly Rancher??

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          • makecents
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            • Jun 2017
            • 11038

            #6
            I've seen this before and for some reason I thought it was related to split face doubling but nothing I can find shows anything like this. I do feel like it is a plating issue but cannot find anything to back it up. I've seen this multiple times and it was always plated coins.

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            • VAB2013
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              • Nov 2013
              • 12351

              #7
              Jon, look at the close up of LIB and close up of E. That is the sunken thing I was trying to describe that I have always wondered if it's from die deterioration.

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              • makecents
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                • Jun 2017
                • 11038

                #8
                Originally posted by VAB2013
                Jon, look at the close up of LIB and close up of E. That is the sunken thing I was trying to describe that I have always wondered if it's from die deterioration.
                It's all over every pic he has. I posted something very similar to this when I first came to the site and I think I was told it had something to do with split plating. Not sure, can't find anything in the glossary or Error-ref that shows this. I have seen it several times though and have always just wrote it off as a plating issue.

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                • jfines69
                  Member
                  • Jun 2010
                  • 28848

                  #9
                  Originally posted by makecents
                  I've seen this before and for some reason I thought it was related to split face doubling but nothing I can find shows anything like this. I do feel like it is a plating issue but cannot find anything to back it up. I've seen this multiple times and it was always plated coins.
                  See if this helps Jon http://www.error-ref.com/?s=split+plate+doubling
                  Jim
                  (A.K.A. Elmer Fudd) Be verwy verwy quiet... I'm hunting coins!!! Good Hunting!!!

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                  • makecents
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                    • Jun 2017
                    • 11038

                    #10
                    Originally posted by jfines69
                    Thanks Jim!! I had looked at this before but could not find what I thought I remembered. I thought I remembered an almost exact example of this being shown somewhere but have come up empty. My little brain...

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                    • jfines69
                      Member
                      • Jun 2010
                      • 28848

                      #11
                      Originally posted by makecents
                      Thanks Jim!! I had looked at this before but could not find what I thought I remembered. I thought I remembered an almost exact example of this being shown somewhere but have come up empty. My little brain...
                      What were we talking about Don't worry - I do the same thing on a minute by minute moment
                      Jim
                      (A.K.A. Elmer Fudd) Be verwy verwy quiet... I'm hunting coins!!! Good Hunting!!!

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