Die Deterioration Doubling (DDD)

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  • jcuve
    Moderator, Die & Variety Expert
    • Apr 2008
    • 15458

    #1

    [Example] Die Deterioration Doubling (DDD)

    I have been working on a quick visual analysis of Other Forms of Doubling (OFD). (This whole page plus other examples have been archived here: LINK.)

    Here I have illustrated Die Deterioration Doubling (DDD) on both new and older Lincolns. Illustration a. is a 1989D with DDD that is often mistaken for MD (what I had thought for a time as well) OR for beginners, confused as a Doubled Die. You can see in the first picture that the date has a ghostly doubled companion, by changing the light (photo 2), one can see the typical orange peel associated with DDD on older Lincolns is present here as well. (Also note the mintmark has Split Plating Doubling.) Below for comparison is a 1989P with clear Machine Doubling( (MD) and finally a 1989P 1DO-005 with class VI extra thickness in the date.

    Illustration b. shows a common LDS examples of a 1955 with DDD on the second 5 and across IGWT (sometimes called a poorman's double die, a misnomer) in LIB of LIBERTY and the 4 of a 1954. At the bottom is a 1955 DDO-002 with separation and notching for comparison with a real doubled die.

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    Jason
    Last edited by jcuve; 08-23-2012, 11:07 AM.



    Jason Cuvelier


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  • jhracing08
    Member
    • Apr 2009
    • 525

    #2
    Nice explanation and examples Jason.
    Jhracing08

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    • 1sgret

      #3
      Nice examples.

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      • JeanK
        Member
        • Sep 2008
        • 5696

        #4
        Thank You Jason! I certainly do appreciate the photographs as they do save me a thousand words of written explanations, and stick in my brain easier.
        Jean

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        • RWBILLER
          Member
          • Jul 2008
          • 6870

          #5
          jason
          you should make a picture book of error types
          roger
          Roger
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          • jcuve
            Moderator, Die & Variety Expert
            • Apr 2008
            • 15458

            #6
            Originally posted by RWBILLER
            jason
            you should make a picture book of error types
            roger
            I don't think I have enough examples for a book - let alone the means to get something published. I might put up some pages on my website of a few doubled dies, maybe a few varieties and errors. Nothing crazy mind you.

            If I can find a few more good examples of DDD I will add them to this thread, I think Jean said it best, "[the photographs...] stick in my brain easier."



            Jason Cuvelier


            MadDieClashes.com - ErrorVariety.com
            TrailDies.com - Error-ref.com - Port.Cuvelier.org
            CONECA

            (images © Jason Cuvelier 2008-18)___________________

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            • yomamma

              #7
              Thanks--very helpful---those DDD's can throw me into a false DDO frenzy....

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              • BadThad
                Member
                • Jan 2009
                • 3011

                #8
                Excellent job Jason!
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                • hasfam
                  Paid Member

                  • May 2009
                  • 6291

                  #9
                  Very nice job Jason. I would save the pics for reference but pics of DDD's and MD's have already been surgically implanted in my brain.

                  Rock
                  Rock
                  My LCR Photo Album of Graded Lincoln Cent Cherry Picker Varieties

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                  • JeanK
                    Member
                    • Sep 2008
                    • 5696

                    #10
                    Very nice work Jason. Thank You!
                    Now, back to those crazy 43 reprocessed cents with DDD ... drats! One could hope for more.
                    Jean

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                    • celartu
                      Member
                      • Jan 2010
                      • 815

                      #11
                      Although it is difficult, I will go gradually learn, Thanks

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                      • linda555

                        #12
                        Ddd

                        I have a question about this die deterioration doubling. It must not be a very valuable coins because i have alot of them.

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                        • copper_poisoning
                          Member
                          • Mar 2009
                          • 759

                          #13
                          Coins showing die deterioration doubling do not carry any premium....or, I should say shouldn't carry any premium. Some coins with DDD like the 1955 poor man's "doubled die" seem to carry a premium for some reason.

                          Greg

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                          • celartu
                            Member
                            • Jan 2010
                            • 815

                            #14
                            With contributions like these, we learn a lot, thanks Jason.-

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                            • laytonre

                              #15
                              Jason just finished looking at your last two post with this is very good material and needs to be added to the resource site to make it easy to fine. Your posts have been a great help to many new members and old that are trying to learn. So congrats and thanks Richard

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