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  • pennies4pennies
    Member
    • Dec 2008
    • 3293

    #1

    1922 No D Counterfeit

    Found this today and it sure does look like a counterfeit to me. Just wanted to share.

    Frank
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  • Maineman750
    Administrator

    • Apr 2011
    • 12079

    #2
    Offhand, I'd say you're right. Surface looks grainy and two's don't look quite right. I'd rather see it in hand before saying for sure...along with weighing it...but I surely wouldn't buy it based on pics.
    https://www.ebay.com/sch/maineman750...75.m3561.l2562

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    • Chugly
      Member
      • Aug 2011
      • 2358

      #3
      From what is see that is a fake as you can get! It lacks all of the characteristics of a true 1922 plain.

      From what I can remember, genuine examples exhibit the following: 1) a mushy "We"; 2) The "L" of liberty is right on the rim; 3 the first "2" in the date being stronger than the second. There is also a distinctive die crack on the reverse to look for.

      I would be heartbroken on that one, but I bet that it is worth a few bucks even as a counterfeit. No matter what a great education piece and a very cool find - I never seem to find anything the old, fake or real.

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      • rlm's cents
        Member
        • Aug 2011
        • 453

        #4
        I am pretty sure that is a cast coin. No only that, but they used the wrong coin for a pattern to make their mold.
        http://boards.collectors-society.com.../40238/sig.jpg

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        • pennies4pennies
          Member
          • Dec 2008
          • 3293

          #5
          To me it looks like a sand mold with the wrong year for Lincolns bust. The 2s are way off. This one kind of looks like the 1914D I have that is counterfeit same sand look on the OBV and REV. The 1914D would look right if it didn't have a sand mold look. Maybe just pitted.
          Those are my principles. If you don't like them I have others
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          • BadThad
            Member
            • Jan 2009
            • 3011

            #6
            Yep, 100% fake, not even close really. Besides the surfaces, there's a ton of things wrong like the date and the portrait....not even close.
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            • BadThad
              Member
              • Jan 2009
              • 3011

              #7
              I should add, the correct terminology for coins like this are "fake" and not counterfeit.
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              • jcuve
                Moderator, Die & Variety Expert
                • Apr 2008
                • 15458

                #8
                All sorts of wrong...



                Jason Cuvelier


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                • trails
                  Moderator, Error Expert
                  • Feb 2008
                  • 3358

                  #9
                  Obvious the coin was made from a cast molding.

                  BJ Neff
                  ANA, CCC, CONECA, FUN, Fly-In-Club, NLG & "The Error-Variety Education Consortium"

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                  • wolfkill

                    #10
                    where did you find???

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                    • pennies4pennies
                      Member
                      • Dec 2008
                      • 3293

                      #11
                      Originally posted by wolfkill
                      where did you find???
                      I found it in one of my wheat rolls. So far I have found fake 1914D, 1922 no D, 1955 DDO,
                      1913S,1909S VDB, there might be a couple more, I would have to dig them up.
                      Those are my principles. If you don't like them I have others
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                      • BadThad
                        Member
                        • Jan 2009
                        • 3011

                        #12
                        Originally posted by pennies4pennies
                        I found it in one of my wheat rolls. So far I have found fake 1914D, 1922 no D, 1955 DDO,
                        1913S,1909S VDB, there might be a couple more, I would have to dig them up.
                        WOW! That's a nice fake collection! My only fake is a 09 SVDB, but I had to buy it. It's an added S coin, it's pretty nice but has an obvious fake placement of the MM.
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                        • DoubleYou
                          Member
                          • Sep 2010
                          • 3629

                          #13
                          Is it from the same rolls you're selling? LOL

                          Definitely counterfeit. As for your 09S VDB, BadThad, the mintmark isn't even of the correct style!
                          Wendell Carper
                          It's a bird! It's a plane! Aw nuts... It's merely two die scratches!

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                          • wolfkill

                            #14
                            i wonder if its chinse junk???

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                            • BadThad
                              Member
                              • Jan 2009
                              • 3011

                              #15
                              Originally posted by DoubleYou
                              Is it from the same rolls you're selling? LOL

                              Definitely counterfeit. As for your 09S VDB, BadThad, the mintmark isn't even of the correct style!
                              Yea, my coin is wrong in many ways.
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