Possible New 1957 D RPM

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  • engine823
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    • May 2011
    • 1342

    #1

    Possible New 1957 D RPM

    Hey all,

    Well this thread has a two fold purpose. First I believe this may be a new RPM for coppercoins and I was wanting some opinions on it. I don't see any that are close except 1957D-1MM-005.
    That leads me to my second thing!!! Thank you all so much for helping me figure out layering!!!! I downloaded the new paint program and I did an overlay with my coin and 1957D-1MM-005. I believe I have the date lined up perfect and the mint mark is close but not exact. COOL!!! The second pic is the overlay.

    Anyway
    Enjoy!
    Shannon
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  • engine823
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    • May 2011
    • 1342

    #2
    Oops I totally deleted the first pic. Anyway you get the idea that it is not the 1957D-1MM-005. I will try to get a better pic tomorrow of the actual coin if anyone is interested. Time for bed!

    Shannon

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    • flyhi3
      Member
      • Mar 2012
      • 3702

      #3
      Coool! Hope it is new!

      Alex
      Alexander Helzel
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      • eaxtellcoin
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        • Jan 2008
        • 2086

        #4
        Shannon, Send a pic of just the coin, not with the overlay. We'll be able to figure it out from there. I already have a pretty good idea, just want to be sure... Eric

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        • seal006
          Member
          • Jun 2010
          • 2330

          #5
          Originally posted by eaxtellcoin
          Shannon, Send a pic of just the coin, not with the overlay. We'll be able to figure it out from there. I already have a pretty good idea, just want to be sure... Eric
          Yeah, I was waiting for the pic of the coin in question as well. We all love to help, but ya gotta give us at least a pic.
          "If Free Speech stops when someone gets offended, it is not really Free Speech."

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          • jallengomez
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            • Jan 2010
            • 4447

            #6
            Back to the drawing board.
            Last edited by jallengomez; 07-12-2012, 08:04 PM. Reason: Didn't realize it was an overlay.
            “What can be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence.”

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            • seal006
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              • Jun 2010
              • 2330

              #7
              Originally posted by engine823
              Oops I totally deleted the first pic. Anyway you get the idea that it is not the 1957D-1MM-005. I will try to get a better pic tomorrow of the actual coin if anyone is interested. Time for bed!

              Shannon
              Your overlay is the photo used on coppercoins for the 002 not the 005. I am completely confused at this point.
              "If Free Speech stops when someone gets offended, it is not really Free Speech."

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              • jallengomez
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                • Jan 2010
                • 4447

                #8
                I missed that it's an overlay. Can we see a pic of just your coin? There's no way at all that we'll be able to tell from an overlay.
                “What can be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence.”

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                • seal006
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                  • Jun 2010
                  • 2330

                  #9
                  Originally posted by jallengomez
                  I missed that it's an overlay. Can we see a pic of just your coin? There's no way at all that we'll be able to tell from an overlay.
                  Now you understand what we were asking for.
                  "If Free Speech stops when someone gets offended, it is not really Free Speech."

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                  • engine823
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                    • May 2011
                    • 1342

                    #10
                    Look all Here is the original pic that I accidentally deleted. I have been at work and couldn't get back to this post till now. The overlay shows 002 but that is 1957-1DO-002 which is in combination with 1957-1MM-005.

                    I don't believe that this is that anyway because the mint mark does not line up. I believe this is a new mint mark variety.

                    Shannon
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                    • engine823
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                      • May 2011
                      • 1342

                      #11
                      Originally posted by seal006
                      Your overlay is the photo used on coppercoins for the 002 not the 005. I am completely confused at this point.

                      The overlay is 1957D-1DO-002 which is matched with 1957D-1MM-005. Same coin.

                      Shannon

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                      • flyhi3
                        Member
                        • Mar 2012
                        • 3702

                        #12
                        I have one just like this I just found..... looks like 1MM-001 to me... Did you check that?

                        Alex
                        Alexander Helzel
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                        • seal006
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                          • Jun 2010
                          • 2330

                          #13
                          Originally posted by engine823
                          The overlay is 1957D-1DO-002 which is matched with 1957D-1MM-005. Same coin.

                          Shannon
                          Just noticed it was 1DO and not 1MM. Now that I see your original photo without the overlay, I am going to say it is indeed the 005. The problem with trying to use an overlay is that your coin may have been shot at a different angle than the one on CC. Or that the coin on CC has been distorted to fit the size used for the website photos. It just seems to unreliable to assume that because the overlay does not line up exactly on two completely different coins shot with two completely different setups, by two different people, it makes it a new variety. Dies also change throughout their life.

                          Have you looked at the 004?
                          Last edited by seal006; 07-13-2012, 06:25 AM.
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                          • engine823
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                            • May 2011
                            • 1342

                            #14
                            I guess that makes since and is very logical. I really had not considered that. However if that is the case, I guess overlays are pointless to use to try and attribute coins?
                            If it is grossly different dies I can see that with me eye. I would only use overlays if they are to close to call. If they still are not reliable because the pics are taken at different angles potentially ,then why even do an overlay?
                            I thought I had learned to do an overlay and it would clear up lots of questionable coins for me but I guess not

                            Shannon

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                            • flyhi3
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                              • Mar 2012
                              • 3702

                              #15
                              Hey everyone, just starting using my new editing program... I rotated your pic. how is this? When the date is lined up, nothing else is , so I doubt it is 005
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