Possible New 1957 D RPM

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  • jallengomez
    Member
    • Jan 2010
    • 4447

    #16
    I agree that it appears to be 005. I can tell you that the doubled die that is also associated with this would probably disappear(as far as the separation lines go) with only minor circulation. Beginning with stage C there should be a die crack in the hair and forehead, as well as a die chip on the T of CENT. Check to see if you see those markers, or any other major markers.
    “What can be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence.”

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    • engine823
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      • May 2011
      • 1342

      #17
      Originally posted by jallengomez
      I agree that it appears to be 005. I can tell you that the doubled die that is also associated with this would probably disappear(as far as the separation lines go) with only minor circulation. Beginning with stage C there should be a die crack in the hair and forehead, as well as a die chip on the T of CENT. Check to see if you see those markers, or any other major markers.

      I have already checked for all those markers and they are not present on this coin

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      • engine823
        Member
        • May 2011
        • 1342

        #18
        Originally posted by flyhi3
        Hey everyone, just starting using my new editing program... I rotated your pic. how is this? When the date is lined up, nothing else is , so I doubt it is 005

        That is almost identical to my overlay findings. It sucks that if this is 005, overlay findings are pointless.

        Shannon

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        • jallengomez
          Member
          • Jan 2010
          • 4447

          #19
          When I get home tonight I'll check my Coneca pics for their known varieties and see if it matches better with anything they list.
          “What can be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence.”

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          • seal006
            Member
            • Jun 2010
            • 2330

            #20
            Originally posted by engine823
            I guess that makes since and is very logical. I really had not considered that. However if that is the case, I guess overlays are pointless to use to try and attribute coins?
            If it is grossly different dies I can see that with me eye. I would only use overlays if they are to close to call. If they still are not reliable because the pics are taken at different angles potentially ,then why even do an overlay?
            I thought I had learned to do an overlay and it would clear up lots of questionable coins for me but I guess not

            Shannon
            I think overlays can be helpful, but do not fully rely on them. Education is your best tool. I learn something on LCR every single day. BTW I happen to be looking for an 005.
            "If Free Speech stops when someone gets offended, it is not really Free Speech."

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            • flyhi3
              Member
              • Mar 2012
              • 3702

              #21
              Shannon, Can you try to take a pic with the same zoom and angel as Coppercoins?


              Alex
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              • engine823
                Member
                • May 2011
                • 1342

                #22
                Originally posted by flyhi3
                Shannon, Can you try to take a pic with the same zoom and angel as Coppercoins?


                Alex
                There is no way for me to know what that is. As far as the angle, I take all my pics on my AM Scope so they are flat and I'm sure coppercoins does the same.

                Shannon
                Last edited by engine823; 07-13-2012, 09:58 AM. Reason: Added info

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                • seal006
                  Member
                  • Jun 2010
                  • 2330

                  #23
                  Another aspect to consider when trying to overlay two different coins is that magnification distorts an image as well.
                  "If Free Speech stops when someone gets offended, it is not really Free Speech."

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                  • Scott99
                    Member
                    • Jan 2011
                    • 2068

                    #24
                    1957D-1MM-005 in my opinion and based on my overlay.
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                    Last edited by Scott99; 07-13-2012, 04:50 PM.
                    Matthew Sallee

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                    • jallengomez
                      Member
                      • Jan 2010
                      • 4447

                      #25
                      Sean,

                      I didn't see anything else in the Coneca files, but Matt's overlay is pretty convincing for 005. Do you have a shot of the full obverse?
                      “What can be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence.”

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                      • seal006
                        Member
                        • Jun 2010
                        • 2330

                        #26
                        My original thought was the 005, but then the overlay talk threw me off. The last overlay by Scott is concrete.
                        "If Free Speech stops when someone gets offended, it is not really Free Speech."

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                        • mustbebob
                          Lincoln Cent Variety Expert
                          • Jul 2008
                          • 12758

                          #27
                          I would agree that this is RPM-005.
                          Bob Piazza
                          Former Lincoln Cent Attributer Coppercoins.com

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                          • flyhi3
                            Member
                            • Mar 2012
                            • 3702

                            #28
                            Originally posted by Scott99
                            1957D-1MM-005 in my opinion and based on my overlay.
                            Wow, how do you make a video/animation like that Scott? Great job! Nice find Shannon!

                            Alex
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                            • Scott99
                              Member
                              • Jan 2011
                              • 2068

                              #29
                              Originally posted by flyhi3
                              Wow, how do you make a video/animation like that Scott?
                              I use my 3d modeling program to line up the images and render the images using different values of opacity for the image in front. (Mainly because it's so easy to align/scale the images). I don't render the animation out of the modeling program though. I combined the images i've rendered in Jasc Animation Shop instead.
                              Matthew Sallee

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                              • flyhi3
                                Member
                                • Mar 2012
                                • 3702

                                #30
                                Originally posted by Scott99
                                I combined the images i've rendered in Jasc Animation Shop instead.
                                Where can I get that, or a similar free version?


                                Alex
                                Alexander Helzel
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