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  • wallendusty
    • Apr 2026

    #1

    1943-d rpm?

    Well this is my first post with a picture. Recently purchased a UNC set 1940-1950 and found this in that set. Any idea on the value? Thanks. Also what grade?uploadfromtaptalk1348565382299.jpg

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  • mustbebob
    Lincoln Cent Variety Expert
    • Jul 2008
    • 12758

    #2
    This one may not be an RPM, but suffer from die deterioration. This is very common for the 1943 cents. Could you maybe get a close-up of the date/mint mark area?
    Bob Piazza
    Former Lincoln Cent Attributer Coppercoins.com

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    • wallendusty

      #3
      I will get more pictures whenever I leave work.

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      • jcuve
        Moderator, Die & Variety Expert
        • Apr 2008
        • 15458

        #4
        A lot of '43s have been plated - to a degree that it is disturbing. Somewhere in the light cleaning process or re-plating, the die deterioration is enhanced making coins look like they have an RPM or are was from a doubled die.



        Jason Cuvelier


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        • simonm
          Member
          • Sep 2010
          • 6398

          #5
          I might see something to the north of the mintmark, but the anomaly to the east is die deterioration.
          My old coin album.

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          • wallendusty

            #6
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            • wallendusty

              #7
              I also see some doubling on the 4 ?

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              • liveandievarieties
                TPG & Market Expert
                • Feb 2011
                • 6049

                #8
                Die deterioration doubling. And as mentioned- the coin is reprocessed.
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                • wallendusty

                  #9
                  So it has no value? This does not add to value?

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                  • mustbebob
                    Lincoln Cent Variety Expert
                    • Jul 2008
                    • 12758

                    #10
                    No. No value for either the die deterioration, or being reprocessed. The deterioration is just wear on the dies. It will get progressively worse the more coins are struck with those dies.. Reprocessing a coin is actually damaging it. Any time you affect the original color or luster of a coin, you effectively remove any value it would have had if it remained natural.
                    Bob Piazza
                    Former Lincoln Cent Attributer Coppercoins.com

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                    • liveandievarieties
                      TPG & Market Expert
                      • Feb 2011
                      • 6049

                      #11
                      Correct- while attractive, reprocessed (replated) steel cents have little to no numismatic value. The die deterioration is very common, appearing on probably more than half of steel cents, as the steel planchets were much harder than copper, the dies wore out faster.

                      Your coin is a great learning tool if used as such, but has no great collectible value or interest.
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                      • jcuve
                        Moderator, Die & Variety Expert
                        • Apr 2008
                        • 15458

                        #12
                        People have been unknowingly buying and collecting reprocessed cents for decades. My grandfather's collection had a few that he thought were uncirculated, but were unfortunately not. He would have gotten them back in the '70s or '80s.



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                        • wallendusty

                          #13
                          Thank you all so much. For sure learned something.

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                          • ShyCent

                            #14
                            Originally posted by liveandievarieties
                            Die deterioration doubling. And as mentioned- the coin is reprocessed.
                            How can you tell when a 1943 cent has been reprocessed?

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                            • jcuve
                              Moderator, Die & Variety Expert
                              • Apr 2008
                              • 15458

                              #15
                              Re-processed cents are either really glossy and slick, or they tend to be matte with very fine lines running across the surface. They were often cleaned prior to being re-plated. That cleaning seems to leave a pitted appearance or enhances die wear making the coin look like a DDO/RPM. The cleaning also has a tendency of getting rid of metal flow lines around the perimeter of the coin.

                              The glossy ones are almost comical and obvious. The matte ones are much better but tend to be dull or tone in odd ways. I don't have good pictures or I would post some.



                              Jason Cuvelier


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