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  • onecent1909
    Wrong Design Die Expert
    • Feb 2012
    • 2597

    #16
    Originally posted by VAB2013
    Has there been a 1989D RDV-007 found and documented? I think this would be what rookie is referring to, just don't know where he saw that information.

    A few things here that are getting more confusing as we go
    RDV-007 started in 1993 with a trasitional die used in 1992 creating the 1992 CLAMs
    IF there is a 1989 design difference it would be a 1989 reverse of 1988 OR RDV-005
    HOWEVER the shape of the top of the G on those questionable coins is that of a 1989 G

    Strike it Rich does list 1989 rev 1988 for the P in my PDF copy
    but it uses the pics that it uses for the 88 rev 89
    I DO NOT WANT TO GIVE CREDIT TO THIS VARIETY AT ALL!
    I have examined quite a few"1989 rev 1988", and I have talked to Dr. Wiles at CONECA and he also agrees
    Every copy examined has had the top of the G Stop short of the Vertical bar like a 1989 /RDV-006 coin
    BUT it also has the Inward line gone( by polishing the die) some show the drop down line below the curve some do not

    I have just bought a SEGS 1989 Reverse of 1988 off of EBAY, and it is a polished RDV-006 die

    Pics are my old ANACS coin, Reverse of 1988 and Reverse of 1989
    on a REV 88 the vertical bar has no line dropping below the curve or line going inward into the G
    The Top of the G goes to the end of the edge of the Vertical line
    on a REV 89 the vertical bar has a line dropping below the curve and line going inward into the G
    The Top of the G dose not go to the end of the edge of the Vertical line
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    Last edited by onecent1909; 11-11-2017, 06:58 PM.
    Member: Florida State representative for the ANA, Florida state representative for CONECA, F.U.N. and the Ocala Coin Club

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    • onecent1909
      Wrong Design Die Expert
      • Feb 2012
      • 2597

      #17
      Looking at ANACS website they do not list any Weak G/Weak FG/Strong G/Strong FG coins at all
      They do list RDV-006 coins
      Member: Florida State representative for the ANA, Florida state representative for CONECA, F.U.N. and the Ocala Coin Club

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      • Roller
        Member
        • Feb 2010
        • 6975

        #18
        Originally posted by onecent1909
        A few things here that are getting more confusing as we go
        RDV-007 started in 1993 with a trasitional die used in 1992 creating the 1992 CLAMs
        IF there is a 1989 design difference it would be a 1989 reverse of 1988 OR RDV-005
        HOWEVER the shape of the top of the G on those questionable coins is that of a 1989 G

        Strike it Rich does list 1989 rev 1988 for the P in my PDF copy
        but it uses the pics that it uses for the 88 rev 89
        I DO NOT WANT TO GIVE CREDIT TO THIS VARIETY AT ALL!
        I have examined quite a few"1989 rev 1988", and I have talked to Dr. Wiles at CONECA and he also agrees
        Every copy examined has had the top of the G Stop short of the Vertical bar like a 1989 /RDV-006 coin
        BUT it also has the Inward line gone( by polishing the die) some show the drop down line below the curve some do not

        I have just bought a SEGS 1989 Reverse of 1988 off of EBAY, and it is a polished RDV-006 die

        Pics are my old ANACS coin, Reverse of 1988 and Reverse of 1989
        on a REV 88 the vertical bar has no line dropping below the curve or line going inward into the G
        The Top of the G goes to the end of the edge of the Vertical line
        on a REV 89 the vertical bar has a line dropping below the curve and line going inward into the G
        The Top of the G dose not go to the end of the edge of the Vertical line
        OK. I'm hitting the eggnog.

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        • VAB2013
          Forum Ambassador
          • Nov 2013
          • 12351

          #19
          Thank you so much John for helping us with this! It does get confusing! We really appreciate you providing us with factual information! I think sometimes books and other media use words and explanations to make things easier to understand and it ends up further complicating an already complicated thing.
          Last edited by VAB2013; 11-11-2017, 07:27 PM. Reason: typo

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          • VAB2013
            Forum Ambassador
            • Nov 2013
            • 12351

            #20
            Originally posted by Roller
            OK. I'm hitting the eggnog.
            I would too if I had some... go for it!

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            • makecents
              Paid Member

              • Jun 2017
              • 11038

              #21
              Originally posted by Roller
              OK. I'm hitting the eggnog.
              About 2 years ago somebody turned me onto Captain Morgans |"Private Stock" with Fresca over ice. I've never turned back...just sayin.

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              • VAB2013
                Forum Ambassador
                • Nov 2013
                • 12351

                #22
                Has there been a 1989D RDV-007 found and documented? I think this would be what rookie is referring to, just don't know where he saw that information.

                Originally posted by onecent1909
                IF there is a 1989 design difference it would be a 1989 reverse of 1988 OR RDV-005
                HOWEVER the shape of the top of the G on those questionable coins is that of a 1989 G

                Strike it Rich does list 1989 rev 1988 for the P in my PDF copy
                but it uses the pics that it uses for the 88 rev 89
                I DO NOT WANT TO GIVE CREDIT TO THIS VARIETY AT ALL!
                I have examined quite a few"1989 rev 1988", and I have talked to Dr. Wiles at CONECA and he also agrees
                Every copy examined has had the top of the G Stop short of the Vertical bar like a 1989 /RDV-006 coin
                BUT it also has the Inward line gone( by polishing the die) some show the drop down line below the curve some do not
                Thank you very much John! If only I understood half of what you know

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                • enamel7
                  Paid Member

                  • Apr 2009
                  • 4043

                  #23
                  As was said, there have never been any 1989 cents found with the 88 reverse. The speculation of it happening came about due to mistakes in other years. Examples being the close and wide am coins. The difference is one was a design change and the other being proof reverse dies. What probably happened was the 88 dies were used up and the new reverse was used instead of making more of the 88 reverse. That theory plays out as to why there aren't any 89's with the previous design.

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                  • mustbebob
                    Lincoln Cent Variety Expert
                    • Jul 2008
                    • 12758

                    #24
                    I was hoping we weren't going to get into guessing what was meant by ANACS. I guess we just need Rookie to come back on and address some things. A simple photo of the slab will fix all of the confusion. Some good conversational elements here but I just want to be sure we are not getting into another 'made up' variety like we tend to do in this hobby.
                    Bob Piazza
                    Former Lincoln Cent Attributer Coppercoins.com

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                    • jfines69
                      Paid Member

                      • Jun 2010
                      • 28643

                      #25
                      Originally posted by Roller
                      How do you know the OP is referring to an 006 reverse? Without the attribution on the slab or picture of the coin I have no idea what this is all about.
                      I believe it is only an explanation of what the OP may be talking about as best I can tell!!!
                      Jim
                      (A.K.A. Elmer Fudd) Be verwy verwy quiet... I'm hunting coins!!! Good Hunting!!!

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                      • jfines69
                        Paid Member

                        • Jun 2010
                        • 28643

                        #26
                        I agree with Bob 100%... Time to wait for rookie to come back with a pic for us to see what it says if possible!!!
                        Jim
                        (A.K.A. Elmer Fudd) Be verwy verwy quiet... I'm hunting coins!!! Good Hunting!!!

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                        • rookie
                          • Feb 2015
                          • 9

                          #27
                          Originally posted by mustbebob
                          I have no idea what ANACS could have authenticated it to other than an AU58 cent. Could you post a pic of the slab or tell us exactly what is annotated on the slab? The 'Strike it Rich' book is not anything they would have attributed it to as it is not an attributable club/book/site. As others have stated, 'Bold FG' is not a recognized variety
                          I will post a pic of the slab when I get back home.

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                          • rookie
                            • Feb 2015
                            • 9

                            #28
                            Originally posted by mustbebob
                            I have no idea what ANACS could have authenticated it to other than an AU58 cent. Could you post a pic of the slab or tell us exactly what is annotated on the slab? The 'Strike it Rich' book is not anything they would have attributed it to as it is not an attributable club/book/site. As others have stated, 'Bold FG' is not a recognized variety
                            Here is your pic
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                            • mustbebob
                              Lincoln Cent Variety Expert
                              • Jul 2008
                              • 12758

                              #29
                              Ahhh...The answer we were looking for. It is a Reverse Die 006 Variety. Thank you Rookie! Still don't know where the 'Bold FG or Weak FG' nomenclature came from. They are neither bold nor weak. They are simply different devices.
                              Last edited by mustbebob; 11-12-2017, 09:51 AM.
                              Bob Piazza
                              Former Lincoln Cent Attributer Coppercoins.com

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                              • jfines69
                                Paid Member

                                • Jun 2010
                                • 28643

                                #30
                                Cool... Thanks for the follow up pic... Nice coin!!!
                                Jim
                                (A.K.A. Elmer Fudd) Be verwy verwy quiet... I'm hunting coins!!! Good Hunting!!!

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