Why are 93 proofs close AM?

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  • GrumpyEd
    Member
    • Jan 2013
    • 7229

    #1

    Why are 93 proofs close AM?

    It seems odd, why they made the 93 proofs close AM like the bus strikes.
    The 92 and 94 are both wide AM and not the same as the close AM bus strikes.
    It seems odd that they did 93 different.
    It also seems like there would have been a chance for a WAM if any die from earlier or later was used but none have showed up.

    It's caused people to get exited, you look at a bunch of proofs and see a close AM among dates that are wide and get exited.

    Makes me wonder why they did 93 differently.

    Anyone know why?
  • Petespockets55
    Paid Member

    • Dec 2014
    • 6890

    #2
    Interesting observation Ed.
    But no information here.

    EDIT: When comparing the reverses for preceding and following years the designers initials look different also.

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    • makecents
      Paid Member

      • Jun 2017
      • 11038

      #3
      Originally posted by Petespockets55
      Interesting observation Ed.
      But no information here.

      EDIT: When comparing the reverses for preceding and following years the designers initials look different also.
      It's a totally different reverse. The 93 reverse for all is RDV-007 and the 92S/94S are RDV-006. LINK(http://www.varietyvista.com/01b%20LC...0Varieties.htm)

      That is very odd though, they just went right around the 93S.... I would like to hear why too.
      Last edited by makecents; 09-06-2019, 04:41 AM. Reason: spelling....

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      • makecents
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        • Jun 2017
        • 11038

        #4
        Originally posted by GrumpyEd
        It seems odd, why they made the 93 proofs close AM like the bus strikes.
        The 92 and 94 are both wide AM and not the same as the close AM bus strikes.
        It seems odd that they did 93 different.
        It also seems like there would have been a chance for a WAM if any die from earlier or later was used but none have showed up.

        It's caused people to get exited, you look at a bunch of proofs and see a close AM among dates that are wide and get exited.

        Makes me wonder why they did 93 differently.

        Anyone know why?
        I've never paid attention to this before Ed, now I'll be looking for the impossible 93S WAM!!

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        • GrumpyEd
          Member
          • Jan 2013
          • 7229

          #5
          Seems so odd that it was a one year surrounded by a different RDV and wasn't a mistake or at least it seems they did them all that way.

          The 73 cents are similar in a way, a one year deviation using RDV-3 but the difference is that in 73 the years before were RDV-2 and years after were RDV-4 so it seems like they made a decision to change it and it was an iteration.

          The 93 proof is a little different because the previous years were RDV-6 and years after were RDV-6 so they went back to the same reverse after the one year of RDV-7 on the 93 proof. Sort of like they decided to change it then something made them change the plan and revert back to RDV-6.

          They did use RDV-7 for bus strikes 92-08 and by mistake on a few 98-99 proofs and by mistake on a few 92 bus strikes (the rare P/D 92 CAMs) but 93 is the only year the used it purposely on all proofs.

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          • VAB2013
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            • Nov 2013
            • 12351

            #6
            Thank you Ed for expanding our knowledge! This flew right over my head and I had to re-read a few times

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            • Petespockets55
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              • Dec 2014
              • 6890

              #7
              Originally posted by makecents
              It's a totally different reverse. The 93 reverse for all is RDV-007 and the 92S/94S are RDV-006. LINK(http://www.varietyvista.com/01b%20LC...0Varieties.htm)

              That is very odd though, they just went right around the 93S.... I would like to hear why too.
              Thanks Jon, that link was very helpful.

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              • VAB2013
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                • Nov 2013
                • 12351

                #8
                You know if Ed asks a question, it's gonna be a tough one! Still reading and trying to grasp this one!

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                • willbrooks
                  Die & Design Expert, LCF Glossary Author

                  • Jan 2012
                  • 9477

                  #9
                  This is exactly like going back through the drive- through to ask them why they put pickles on your french fries.
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                  • VAB2013
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                    • Nov 2013
                    • 12351

                    #10
                    Originally posted by willbrooks
                    This is exactly like going back through the drive- through to ask them why they put pickles on your french fries.
                    Hey Will! Nice to see you back! We've been wondering how your study and articles are coming along! Never tried pickles on fries but who knows... it might be like a Dill Pickle Chip

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                    • willbrooks
                      Die & Design Expert, LCF Glossary Author

                      • Jan 2012
                      • 9477

                      #11
                      Originally posted by VAB2013
                      Hey Will! Nice to see you back! We've been wondering how your study and articles are coming along! Never tried pickles on fries but who knows... it might be like a Dill Pickle Chip
                      My point is, you are asking a bunch of factory workers if they had a specific reason for screwing up your order. The answer is, the people who work at the mint are just as incompetent as the people who work at McDonald's. I assure you, they're wasn't some master plan to change the reverse die for one year. They screwed up. Just like the all of the other wrong die reverses. Sadly, if they screwed up all of them for the entire year, then they aren't worth anything.
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                      • VAB2013
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                        • Nov 2013
                        • 12351

                        #12
                        Thanks Will... I was hoping you would explain your analogy for us!

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                        • willbrooks
                          Die & Design Expert, LCF Glossary Author

                          • Jan 2012
                          • 9477

                          #13
                          I'm totally mystified that people think all government workers are somehow competent. They must not be paying attention.
                          Last edited by Maineman750; 09-10-2019, 03:58 AM.
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                          • VAB2013
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                            • Nov 2013
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                            #14
                            Originally posted by willbrooks
                            I'm totally mystified that people think government workers are somehow competent. They must not be paying attention.
                            Okay... I do remember you talking about this **a few times** But, these workers have supervisors and you just wouldn't think that many mistakes would happen.

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                            • willbrooks
                              Die & Design Expert, LCF Glossary Author

                              • Jan 2012
                              • 9477

                              #15
                              Originally posted by VAB2013
                              Okay... I do remember you talking about this **a few times** But, these workers have supervisors and you just wouldn't think that many mistakes would happen.
                              I would. Im going to crawl back into my hole now. The moonlight is hurting my eyes.
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