$60 shipping? '69S DDO?

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  • Jim

    #16
    Drats Ebay pulled it so I did not get to jump on it LOL. You must have found the pics?

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    • rlm's cents
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      • Aug 2011
      • 453

      #17
      Originally posted by Jim
      Drats Ebay pulled it so I did not get to jump on it LOL. You must have found the pics?
      You are looking at the first listing. The second is still there. http://cgi.ebay.com/1969-S-Doubled-D...item2313397b5d Even if I do find the pictures, they have to be from a site she obviously could not have the coin pictured or the owner must file the complaint.
      http://boards.collectors-society.com.../40238/sig.jpg

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      • tea-party
        Member
        • Jun 2011
        • 1091

        #18
        Originally posted by jcuve
        And it's back with one blurry pic and two STOLEN pics
        I called it

        HERE

        Jason you just that good ..lol

        John
        (John) This is only one way to go in my world and that's forward, without a reverse!

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        • wolfkill

          #19
          it will be back, ebay???

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          • jcuve
            Moderator, Die & Variety Expert
            • Apr 2008
            • 15458

            #20
            For what it is worth: there are three new pics up. The pic of the coin in a flip was taken Aug 3, 2011 and was taken in the location the CT user says they are from (yes there is GPS data in the image). The other two images from her auction up the other day (and at CT) were edited in Photoshop Elements on March 28, 2010. The new images have no data, but are edited (contrast) and cropped.



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            • jcuve
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              • Apr 2008
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              #21
              I did it! I found where her first two images were taken from. The images are still on this CT PAGE, they are cropped from images from a HA auction of an AU55 PCGS HERE - the stain under the D of GOD confirms it.



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              • rlm's cents
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                • Aug 2011
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                #22
                Originally posted by jcuve
                I did it! I found where her first two images were taken from. The images are still on this CT PAGE, they are cropped from images from a HA auction of an AU55 PCGS HERE - the stain under the D of GOD confirms it.
                Nice work!

                I am pretty sure you are right, but that will not help. Now, how can you show that is not the coin she is selling. If Heritage were to file for the use of their pictures, they would probably win. The owner of the coin might also be able to win. The only way a third party can win is if the picture were on something like the ANA web site (been there, done that).
                http://boards.collectors-society.com.../40238/sig.jpg

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                • lara4228
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                  • Mar 2011
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                  #23
                  It has a bid for $2000 made earlier today.

                  What would happen in this case?
                  What ever you do...do it with passion

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                  • rlm's cents
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                    • Aug 2011
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                    #24
                    Hey, I gave it a try. Grandfather died 2 years ago and left her a raw coin but her pictures are from a certified coin on Heritage 4 months ago. I have no idea if it will work or not, but you never know unless you try.
                    http://boards.collectors-society.com.../40238/sig.jpg

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                    • Maineman750
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                      • Apr 2011
                      • 12071

                      #25
                      Lara, the person that gets ripped off can file a claim with eBay. I'm hoping if they pay out enough claims they will devote more resources to the coins.
                      https://www.ebay.com/sch/maineman750...75.m3561.l2562

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                      • rlm's cents
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                        • Aug 2011
                        • 453

                        #26
                        Originally posted by Maineman750
                        Lara, the person that gets ripped off can file a claim with eBay. I'm hoping if they pay out enough claims they will devote more resources to the coins.
                        They do not "pay" for the claims. That is why they want electronic payments. All they do is hold the funds until the buyer is satisfied. If the buyer gets no coin, the seller gets no money. It costs eBay minimal and its affect on scamming sellers was dramatic.
                        http://boards.collectors-society.com.../40238/sig.jpg

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                        • jcuve
                          Moderator, Die & Variety Expert
                          • Apr 2008
                          • 15458

                          #27
                          Originally posted by lara4228
                          It has a bid for $2000 made earlier today.

                          What would happen in this case?
                          Ugh. Well the auction should get canceled as a reference to a past sale was given in the description, an eBay violation unless the coin is slabbed by a TPG.

                          Will another bid happen after it is relisted? I don't know...

                          On other fronts: I posted my info about the pics on CT - it kind of blew up and the thread is either deleted or in some moderated state. She said "For real? First of all don't disrespect my grandfather, and second of all I don't know what you are talking about because just yesterday I met up with a coin dealer who FLEW here to see the coin and.." the rest is gone (at least for now...)
                          Last edited by jcuve; 08-12-2011, 02:05 PM.



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                          • rlm's cents
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                            #28
                            Originally posted by jcuve
                            Ugh. Well the auction should get canceled as a reference to a past sale was given in the description, an eBay violation unless the coin is slabbed by a TPG.

                            Will another bid happen after it is relisted? I don't know...
                            That is not what the rule says. It is;
                            No estimate of value (even if personal opinion) or reference to a price guide is included in the title or description.
                            The way she has worded it, "In 2010 a 1969 DDO sold for $126,500.", it does not technically give an estimate of value.
                            http://boards.collectors-society.com.../40238/sig.jpg

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                            • jcuve
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                              • Apr 2008
                              • 15458

                              #29
                              Originally posted by rlm's cents
                              That is not what the rule says. It is;
                              The way she has worded it, "In 2010 a 1969 DDO sold for $126,500.", it does not technically give an estimate of value.
                              I'm 95% certain they'll pull - it has happened before, I have seen it.



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                              • Maineman750
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                                • Apr 2011
                                • 12071

                                #30
                                "They do not "pay" for the claims"

                                Thanks RLM, I get that...I'm refering to the process and did not feel the need for all the details to muddy the situation.
                                https://www.ebay.com/sch/maineman750...75.m3561.l2562

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