1966 strong but odd reverse clash

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  • liveandievarieties
    TPG & Market Expert
    • Feb 2011
    • 6049

    #16
    I've seen this fairly regularly on 1968-D Cents. I agree they're deep clashes that were mostly effaced from the die, but still visible because of their strength.
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    • wapa
      Member
      • Jan 2012
      • 2409

      #17
      Very cool find! Congrats

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      • jcuve
        Moderator, Die & Variety Expert
        • Apr 2008
        • 15458

        #18
        Originally posted by hasfam
        "...rotated reverse dime clash, a double denomination error...
        A previously struck dime can and has been struck by cent dies later; I do not see how it could happen in reverse. It just wouldn't make sense on copper planchet, unless by some miracle a copper blank was struck by dime dies and then somehow made its way to the Lincoln cent presses and was re-struck by cent dies, but this scenario doesn't work because the copper blank would not fit into the dime collar to begin with as the blank is too large. And a mule just is not possible, or for that matter a mule clash.



        Jason Cuvelier


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        • liveandievarieties
          TPG & Market Expert
          • Feb 2011
          • 6049

          #19
          Ok Jason, how'bout a foreign, dime sized, copper planchet that was first struck between dime dies, then made it's way to the cent production lines and was struck as second time by cent dies....

          Oh wait, it wouldn't look anything like that. Nevermind.
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          • hasfam
            Paid Member

            • May 2009
            • 6291

            #20
            ... how about.... a friend of a friend who has a dime... oh wait, nevermind.

            Seriously though, thank you Jason.
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            • liveandievarieties
              TPG & Market Expert
              • Feb 2011
              • 6049

              #21
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              • DCW
                Member
                • Feb 2010
                • 2085

                #22
                Boy, it sure looked like a partial reverse of the Roosevelt dime to me....

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                • liveandievarieties
                  TPG & Market Expert
                  • Feb 2011
                  • 6049

                  #23
                  Can anyone explain how that could possibly happen?
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                  • hasfam
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                    • May 2009
                    • 6291

                    #24
                    How do cent/dime double denominations happen anyway? Is this done with dies? Dies and planchets? I don't have the error book with me to read up on it. I wasn't suggesting this was a mule, but I wondered if somehow a dime was involved at all in the minting process.
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                    • hasfam
                      Paid Member

                      • May 2009
                      • 6291

                      #25
                      I should also say that this particular coin is on a 3 day ebay auction right now and closes in a couple of hours. If anyone thinks its more than just a clash, I suggest you jump in and grab it cheap. LINK
                      Rock
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                      • jcuve
                        Moderator, Die & Variety Expert
                        • Apr 2008
                        • 15458

                        #26
                        The hypothesis for the mule clashes was a Mint worker installing dies of different denominations and purposefully clashing them in 1877. I cannot see that happening again in the 1960s...


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                        Jason Cuvelier


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                        • jcuve
                          Moderator, Die & Variety Expert
                          • Apr 2008
                          • 15458

                          #27
                          Double denominations are from previous struck coins somehow ending up with unstruck blanks and getting struck again by a new die pair. Like a struck dime ending up being overstruck by cent dies. It is a one of a kind event.


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                          Jason Cuvelier


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                          • Coppertop
                            Banned
                            • Feb 2012
                            • 596

                            #28
                            Originally posted by RWBILLER
                            Nice fond
                            Rog
                            Originally posted by jcuve

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                            +1 Nice fond lol


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                            • uglycent
                              Member
                              • Mar 2009
                              • 1386

                              #29
                              My first thought when I saw the pictures that it looked like a dime clash also. It has the appearance of the flames on the dime reverse.
                              Even a fool can look wise if he keeps his mouth closed.

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                              • jcuve
                                Moderator, Die & Variety Expert
                                • Apr 2008
                                • 15458

                                #30
                                Sent from my iPhone
                                It comes from that Tapatalk application...on my iPhone...LOL



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