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Roller, what does "in relief" mean? Also, I did not realize until this post that my choice of camera settings to reduce glare was causing incuse devices to blow up to large raised proportions. But, despite that, I can see very similar shaped anoms to this "toothpick type spike" as viewed as raised, as incuse at other spots of other 2014 coins (with the same camera setting).... strange I know
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Maineman, I did not word my question that well. I had already googled "relief" and "in relief coins" and all that tells me is mostly about "high relief" where the devices are sometimes higher than the rim. What I really wanted to know is what does "in relief" mean with regards to the die.Comment
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Roller, the best I can tell it appears to be raised. Especially where the anom crosses over the right curve of the R and lands on the field. The only loupe I have that shows this detail is a 60x and it is an "eye killer". It does show EPU as incuse but the anom is not as visible, you have to really look hard at it. I am starting to feel like I have caused a lot of trouble over just a "scratch" or "gouge" but there is a great learning process in all of this.... thanks ya'll!Comment
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Ok... I feel like ya'll are probably already thinking "oh no... here she is again" but I decided to take photos of this coin before I send it to onecent1909, just in case it is determined to be a die gouge. That way I can learn from this and possibly find another one like it. And... I found that same deep gouge I was trying to explain that I am seeing on other 2014's in various locations of the coin. This gouge "and I am only calling that for a lack of a better word", so maybe "deep scratch" is on the obverse of the coin I am sending to onecent1909. Photo attached. So... somewhere in the tangled up mess of spaghetti wires in my brain, I was thinking that possibly this "scratch" piece somehow dislodged and placed itself on the reverse of the coin at EPU (similar to the rim burrs)... just my crazy stinkin' thinkin'
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If no one else can figure this out..I want to try...
VAB2013 and BUSYEYE.. I would like to see a copy of your coins.....I want to understand this "thing"
If you would let me...PM me so I can give you an address.. or I can send you an E-MAIL with a copy of a UPS tag that you can put on a box and send it to me... I would return it UPS style back to you...
Roller sorry I bagged them back to the bank, you would've had a field day with them as there were so many. Should I come across some more again I'll pm you.Comment
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I have 1... no 2... no 3 things...
1) Vivian..the mark on the coin... Is it raised or not raised across the whole mark in the field... I guess we (I) should have asked that to start with
2) busyeye.. it is I that wanted to look at the coins not roller.. but I am sure he is interested too.
3) roller... agreed if it is raised... it is a die dent/gouge....and NOT PSD....if it is not raised.. but cut into the coin... don't know... need to see it...
WOW what less than 24 hr will do to a thread...Member: Florida State representative for the ANA, Florida state representative for CONECA, F.U.N. and the Ocala Coin ClubComment
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That is a possibility if the mark on the reverse is raised....Member: Florida State representative for the ANA, Florida state representative for CONECA, F.U.N. and the Ocala Coin ClubComment
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onecent, best I can tell it is raised over the entire field and it appears to show up better where it crosses over the devices. Obligations kept me from going to the post office today, but it is on tomorrow's schedule! Thank you!Comment
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now it is solved....It is raised do it is a dent/gouge on the die that struck this coin... every coin struck after the event would show this.... I would still like to see it... send it to me and I will send something to you for the problem... roller was right on the dent/gouge... and it is on the die. point game match goes to Roller...... oh what fun this was.. and will be when i see this...Member: Florida State representative for the ANA, Florida state representative for CONECA, F.U.N. and the Ocala Coin ClubComment
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Well, don't call it till you see it, I could very easily be wrong. I'm not that great with 60x magnification and I could be seeing this all wrong. You be the judge when you get it. Thank you!Comment
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This one I don't think is a die gouge. The ones on the reverse are. I think this one is a struck rim burr. Look on the coin you should see a piece of rim missing it will show a silver color exposed zinc.Ok... I feel like ya'll are probably already thinking "oh no... here she is again" but I decided to take photos of this coin before I send it to onecent1909, just in case it is determined to be a die gouge. That way I can learn from this and possibly find another one like it. And... I found that same deep gouge I was trying to explain that I am seeing on other 2014's in various locations of the coin. This gouge "and I am only calling that for a lack of a better word", so maybe "deep scratch" is on the obverse of the coin I am sending to onecent1909. Photo attached. So... somewhere in the tangled up mess of spaghetti wires in my brain, I was thinking that possibly this "scratch" piece somehow dislodged and placed itself on the reverse of the coin at EPU (similar to the rim burrs)... just my crazy stinkin' thinkin'Life is not about greatness but on the impact of good onto others. It is a matter of how much one shines. Explains why I like shiny coins.Comment
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You are referring to the photo of the obverse. I looked at the obverse and reverse rims and although it is struck very slightly off center, I don't see any anoms on the rims. Just a few small dings. I am mailing this coin and 3 other similar ones to onecent1909 to take a look at. These gouges or scratches or whatever they are (in the photo of the obverse) are on a large majority of the 2014P's I have seen, in various locations obverse and reverse.Comment
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