2014 Partially Plated or PMD?

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  • furryfrog02
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    • Sep 2013
    • 777

    #1

    Error Plating | 2014 Partially Plated or PMD?

    This came out of a roll today. I was wondering if it was partially plated. The reverse it normal. Thanks for looking!
    2014 LSC Missing Clad.jpg2014 LSC Missing Clad Close.jpg
  • jmangham
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    • Oct 2014
    • 990

    #2
    I have seen a lot of these on 80s cents where it looks like the plating around the edges is cracked. It usually happens on coins with a good bit of die deterioration. It looks like you could probably take a thin knife and lift the top layer off. By the was the deterioration looks on the northeast side of the coin I would say major die deterioration with some "help" in the area of concern. It looks like someone may have tried to remove the top layer there.
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    • jmangham
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      • Oct 2014
      • 990

      #3
      II was just looking at it again. I don't know if the damage on the northeast of the coin is die deterioration or a plating issue. Maybe both.
      Last edited by jmangham; 11-14-2014, 07:47 PM.
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      • jallengomez
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        • Jan 2010
        • 4447

        #4
        Nice find. I would say partially plated because there doesn't seem to be any damage to the devices where the plating is missing.
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        • jmangham
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          • Oct 2014
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          #5
          It looked to me like there was some grinding in that area, or is it smooth there?
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          • jfines69
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            • Jun 2010
            • 28848

            #6
            I think it is a combination of split plate and psd... There is damage to the rim and some split plate on the east side... The damage caused the plating to flake away!!!
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            • furryfrog02
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              • Sep 2013
              • 777

              #7
              It looks like damage in the picture but under the loupe it doesn't look like anything different than the rest of the rim. If the plating had been chipped/flaked away wouldn't there be some sort of jagged edge where the copper ends? It is perfectly smooth as if it had just never been plated.

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              • jmangham
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                • Oct 2014
                • 990

                #8
                I was wondering that too, if there would be a ridge where the plating ended. It may also be that the plating was so thin that there once was a very tiny ridge but now it is worn smooth. Maybe? I hope is it a mint error though! That would be a neat one.
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                • jfines69
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                  • Jun 2010
                  • 28848

                  #9
                  It my or may not leave an edge... Depends on the amount of circulation it has had... Remember it is only my opinion based on what I can see in the pics... That and I wear coke bottles for glasses ... It would be nice if it were an unplated section!!!
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                  • furryfrog02
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                    • Sep 2013
                    • 777

                    #10
                    I wish there was a way to tell for sure...

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                    • jmangham
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                      • Oct 2014
                      • 990

                      #11
                      See the link below to the glossary on this site. The reason that I said die deterioration at first is because of the presence of the apparent "ridge ring" associated with it. The line of missing plating on you coin follows the line seen it the photo below. I am pretty new to this so I have never actually seen one like yours. The only thing that comes to mind for me is that the thin top copper plating has flaked off along that ridge ring. I am not sure if the top layer of these cents will flake off like that though. I hope that we do get a more definitive answer.

                      http://www.lincolncentforum.com/term...ist-q-r/#Ridge Ring
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                      • willbrooks
                        Die & Design Expert, LCF Glossary Author

                        • Jan 2012
                        • 9477

                        #12
                        Originally posted by jmangham
                        See the link below to the glossary on this site. The reason that I said die deterioration at first is because of the presence of the apparent "ridge ring" associated with it. The line of missing plating on you coin follows the line seen it the photo below. I am pretty new to this so I have never actually seen one like yours. The only thing that comes to mind for me is that the thin top copper plating has flaked off along that ridge ring. I am not sure if the top layer of these cents will flake off like that though. I hope that we do get a more definitive answer.

                        http://www.lincolncentforum.com/term...ist-q-r/#Ridge Ring

                        I haven't posted in this thread before because I'm not proficient in assessing the genuineness of partial plating errors, but I can say that die deterioration would have nothing to do with the plating coming off. The blank is plated before the strike, so a genuine partial-plate would have been like that before the coin was ever struck by the dies. It could simply be a severe case of split plating, which IS created by the strike when relief is added to the flat surface of the planchette. The plating has to stretch and sometimes splits. Here is Jason's tutorial on partial and un-plated cents. http://www.lincolncentforum.com/unpl...red-post-mint/ Maybe that will help.
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                        • furryfrog02
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                          • Sep 2013
                          • 777

                          #13
                          Looking through my loupe, my coin looks like the genuine unplated cents in Jason's examples.

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