1983 Damage/Greaser/Stuck through late stage die cap?

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  • furryfrog02
    Member
    • Sep 2013
    • 777

    #1

    Error Struck Through | 1983 Damage/Greaser/Stuck through late stage die cap?

    This one has me stumped. My first thought was that it looks a bit like it may have been struck through a late stage die cap. Maybe it's a greaser...or maybe (probably) damage. What do you guys think?

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  • Roller
    Member
    • Feb 2010
    • 6975

    #2
    Does not look like PSD to me. As between grease and die cap, I lean towards the latter.

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    • furryfrog02
      Member
      • Sep 2013
      • 777

      #3
      The thing that got me was the weakness on Abe's bust. The rest I could have chalked up to damage, but the weakness on his bust looks like of like some of the struck through die caps that I have seen.

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      • mustbebob
        Lincoln Cent Variety Expert
        • Jul 2008
        • 12758

        #4
        I guess it's possible it is a struck through late stage die cap, but I am curious about the obverse being a possible DDO. I believe it is 1DO-003 that has a clogged 8 (Die chip) in the date.
        Bob Piazza
        Former Lincoln Cent Attributer Coppercoins.com

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        • jfines69
          Member
          • Jun 2010
          • 28848

          #5
          Nice find... I am leaning toward the late stage capped dies also... I also think Bob is correct about the DDO 003... Your 9 also appears to match up with CCs 003... Can you find any obv or rev markers... i think obv markers would be the best as the obv die on yours appears to be a VLDS (Nice ridge ring)... Markers would be about the only way to be certain on the DDO!!!
          Jim
          (A.K.A. Elmer Fudd) Be verwy verwy quiet... I'm hunting coins!!! Good Hunting!!!

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          • furryfrog02
            Member
            • Sep 2013
            • 777

            #6
            I definitely see what could be the die chip in the 8. The rest of the obverse is too mushy to make out any details with my loupe. Looking on the reverse, I'm not seeing any of the markers that are shown on copper coins though. Could just be result of wear (?)

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            • jfines69
              Member
              • Jun 2010
              • 28848

              #7
              Originally posted by furryfrog02
              I definitely see what could be the die chip in the 8. The rest of the obverse is too mushy to make out any details with my loupe. Looking on the reverse, I'm not seeing any of the markers that are shown on copper coins though. Could just be result of wear (?)
              The rev die is fairly worn but not as bad as the obv die... Could be the rev is a different die all together... Maybe a good candidate for an in hand look by one of the pros???
              Jim
              (A.K.A. Elmer Fudd) Be verwy verwy quiet... I'm hunting coins!!! Good Hunting!!!

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              • furryfrog02
                Member
                • Sep 2013
                • 777

                #8
                Originally posted by jfines69
                The rev die is fairly worn but not as bad as the obv die... Could be the rev is a different die all together... Maybe a good candidate for an in hand look by one of the pros???
                If that's the case, it will have to wait as I am moving to Korea next month for the next year. Unfortunately I will be out of the coin game until I get back.

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                • jfines69
                  Member
                  • Jun 2010
                  • 28848

                  #9
                  Originally posted by furryfrog02
                  If that's the case, it will have to wait as I am moving to Korea next month for the next year. Unfortunately I will be out of the coin game until I get back.
                  Try to check back in from time to time... I spent 10 months in Korea (1980 - 1981)... It was a culture shock for me at first but was still awesome once I got out and started seeing some of the local areas... Lots of history there and I know that things have changed drastically in the past 36 years... No more midnight to 0400 curfew
                  Jim
                  (A.K.A. Elmer Fudd) Be verwy verwy quiet... I'm hunting coins!!! Good Hunting!!!

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                  • furryfrog02
                    Member
                    • Sep 2013
                    • 777

                    #10
                    I've been to Korea 2 times for language training so I am pretty familiar with Seoul. I love it. It helps that I speak Korean It's going to suck since I am leaving my family behind for the year.

                    Oh and about that curfew....Now it's 0100-0400.....at least it was when I was there last summer. Ugh.

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                    • jfines69
                      Member
                      • Jun 2010
                      • 28848

                      #11
                      Originally posted by furryfrog02
                      I've been to Korea 2 times for language training so I am pretty familiar with Seoul. I love it. It helps that I speak Korean It's going to suck since I am leaving my family behind for the year.

                      Oh and about that curfew....Now it's 0100-0400.....at least it was when I was there last summer. Ugh.
                      Speaking Korean helps a lot... My Korean was broken To bad the family has to stay behind wish I could have taken my family when I went... I really liked Seoul... A buddy of mine when I was there had a Korean Senator as a father-in-law... Needless to say we didn't need to drive... The chaufer took us where ever we wanted I am surprised a curfew was in effect but then with the climate I guess it is needed!!!
                      Jim
                      (A.K.A. Elmer Fudd) Be verwy verwy quiet... I'm hunting coins!!! Good Hunting!!!

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                      • furryfrog02
                        Member
                        • Sep 2013
                        • 777

                        #12
                        The curfew is in effect because young stupid soldiers do stupid things.

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                        • jfines69
                          Member
                          • Jun 2010
                          • 28848

                          #13
                          Originally posted by furryfrog02
                          The curfew is in effect because young stupid soldiers do stupid things.
                          And airmen, marines oh don't forget the navy folks
                          Jim
                          (A.K.A. Elmer Fudd) Be verwy verwy quiet... I'm hunting coins!!! Good Hunting!!!

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