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  • Petespockets55
    Paid Member

    • Dec 2014
    • 6890

    #16
    Originally posted by Maineman750
    The planchets are plated after they are cut into circles...otherwise the edges wouldn't be plated.
    Thanks Roger. That's what I finally realized but wanted confirmation from a pro.

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    • Maineman750
      Administrator

      • Apr 2011
      • 12079

      #17
      Originally posted by Petespockets55

      If it was intentional, avoiding the tops of all devices would be crucial to complete the "Tomfoolery".

      I hear ya, Cliff.....but that would be assuming somebody did this to fool somebody....if they were just playing around for fun, they could do whatever they felt like.
      As for the "furrow" being slightly raised...we would have to have better close ups.....I just scratched a penny with my pen knife while sitting here and cannot see anything raised while using my 20X loupe.....keep in mind that the copper plating is very soft....it took very little pressure to create lines like we see on the OP's coin. I'm not saying my opinion on this is absolute....just a possibility
      https://www.ebay.com/sch/maineman750...75.m3561.l2562

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      • makecents
        Paid Member

        • Jun 2017
        • 11038

        #18
        You are correct! Here are a few more pics.
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        • Petespockets55
          Paid Member

          • Dec 2014
          • 6890

          #19
          Originally posted by Maineman750
          I hear ya, Cliff.....but that would be assuming somebody did this to fool somebody....if they were just playing around for fun, they could do whatever they felt like.
          As for the "furrow" being slightly raised...we would have to have better close ups.....I just scratched a penny with my pen knife while sitting here and cannot see anything raised while using my 20X loupe.....keep in mind that the copper plating is very soft....it took very little pressure to create lines like we see on the OP's coin. I'm not saying my opinion on this is absolute....just a possibility
          Thanks. All good points of course.

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          • makecents
            Paid Member

            • Jun 2017
            • 11038

            #20
            I don't have the best setup for this or the know how but I took a few more and now I think I'll let him soak for a couple days.
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            • Petespockets55
              Paid Member

              • Dec 2014
              • 6890

              #21
              Originally posted by makecents
              I don't have the best setup for this or the know how but I took a few more and now I think I'll let him soak for a couple days.
              So, are the lines looking raised?
              Like it might be caused by the die surface?

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              • makecents
                Paid Member

                • Jun 2017
                • 11038

                #22
                Originally posted by Petespockets55
                So, are the lines looking raised?
                Like it might be caused by the die surface?
                They do look to be raised. When I first started messing with this one I used a toothpick to check it, a little too abrasively I might add. It appears to be raised and copper. I think soaking my help the situation, which I should have done to begin with.

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                • Petespockets55
                  Paid Member

                  • Dec 2014
                  • 6890

                  #23
                  Originally posted by makecents
                  They do look to be raised. When I first started messing with this one I used a toothpick to check it, a little too abrasively I might add. It appears to be raised and copper. I think soaking my help the situation, which I should have done to begin with.
                  This is one that may benefit from stacking or a 3D once soaked.
                  Jim, What say you?

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                  • Roller
                    Member
                    • Feb 2010
                    • 6975

                    #24
                    Was out fishing all day yesterday and could not weigh in on the discussion. After seeing the close-ups I still say it is not psd (at least not purposeful psd). If it is not something adhered to the coin (soaking in acetone might tell) I would lean toward damaged or faulty plating.

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                    • Petespockets55
                      Paid Member

                      • Dec 2014
                      • 6890

                      #25
                      Originally posted by Roller
                      Was out fishing all day yesterday and could not weigh in on the discussion. After seeing the close-ups I still say it is not psd (at least not purposeful psd). If it is not something adhered to the coin (soaking in acetone might tell) I would lean toward damaged or faulty plating.
                      Damage even though the lines appear to be raised in the last images?

                      (Did you throw that mention of fishing in there to brag?
                      Because I notice Roger has been posting recently.)

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                      • Roller
                        Member
                        • Feb 2010
                        • 6975

                        #26
                        Originally posted by Petespockets55
                        Damage even though the lines appear to be raised in the last images?

                        (Did you throw that mention of fishing in there to brag?
                        Yes, to brag (some).
                        Because I notice Roger has been posting recently.)
                        Yes, partially to tease Roger. Glorious day in Miami yesterday. Morning temp in the 60s and low 80s during the day with a nice breeze all day. Picture of sunrise on Biscayne Bay as we put in.

                        If the anom is adhered to the coin it would be raised (that's why I'm suggesting the acetone bath) if it is not adhered, the cracks or crinkling may have developed after the strike (possibly because of a thin plating that did not take well to the force of the strike). Just theorizing here. I doubt that anyone can definitively state the cause and in that vein I should not have originally opined the this "could not be PSD". Mea culpa.
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                        • jallengomez
                          Member
                          • Jan 2010
                          • 4447

                          #27
                          I would soak it in acetone. This could easily be a dried(probably sugary) substance on the coin.
                          “What can be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence.”

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                          • makecents
                            Paid Member

                            • Jun 2017
                            • 11038

                            #28
                            Originally posted by jallengomez
                            I would soak it in acetone. This could easily be a dried(probably sugary) substance on the coin.
                            That was my original plan but decided to go a little easy on it at first. Dropped it in the sonic cleaner before I left for work. We'll see this evening if it's worth sending to anyone.

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                            • makecents
                              Paid Member

                              • Jun 2017
                              • 11038

                              #29
                              Originally posted by Roller
                              Yes, partially to tease Roger. Glorious day in Miami yesterday. Morning temp in the 60s and low 80s during the day with a nice breeze all day. Picture of sunrise on Biscayne Bay as we put in.

                              If the anom is adhered to the coin it would be raised (that's why I'm suggesting the acetone bath) if it is not adhered, the cracks or crinkling may have developed after the strike (possibly because of a thin plating that did not take well to the force of the strike). Just theorizing here. I doubt that anyone can definitively state the cause and in that vein I should not have originally opined the this "could not be PSD". Mea culpa.
                              Nice catch and beautiful pics!! I'm a little jealous of you Floridians. Got my beach trip cut short by a hurricane this year and no fishing before we left.

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                              • makecents
                                Paid Member

                                • Jun 2017
                                • 11038

                                #30
                                Still needs an acetone bath but cleaned it up a little. Here are some updated pics and I'll try again after a couple of days of soaking.
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