Error Die Clash/Break | MAD Clash?

[Petespockets55]

So I came across this Lincoln Memorial Cent and noticed the incuse diagonal area in the bay above Lincoln's statue first.
Next was the area between the building and UNUM, followed by the area below the steps.
On the obverse there appears to be a horizontal line in relief just above the notch in the lapel and to the left near Lincoln's shoulder.
I cannot do justice to the clash with my phone images nor can I do an overlay to confirm the exact layout of the Clash.
I believe the oval area below the steps is Lincoln's earlobe and the diagonal line above the Statue is from the collar of his jacket. I cannot make out what the area beneath UNUM is.
I cannot do overlays, so I give my permission in advance to anybody that would like to use my images for an overlay.
I can post more images if needed. Thanks for looking. Cliff

[jfines69]

Not sure what you have there??? Cool looking tho... Can you get some clearer pics??? Those seem to blur out to much for me when I zoom in... I would like them similar to pic 8 above for obv and rev but centered so I can line things up a little better on overlays!!!

[Petespockets55]

OK, Let me see what I can do.

[makecents]

Definitely something going on but cannot make it out either. I love clashes but hate taking pics of them!

[mustbebob]

Very interesting. I am very much looking forward to see what happens with some overlays.

[VAB2013]

Interesting looking die clash Cliff! I'm also curious what you guys find out! I have a couple similar die clashes put aside that show something similar below the Memorial but not above it. You have a lot more to work with here!

[Petespockets55]

Here goes with some more images Jim. Not sure they are up to the task.
Plus I'm not sure where all the images are that I took. Maybe I deleted more than I thought orienting them correctly.
(This may be one to send in for decent images for an overlays.).

[jfines69]

Here goes with some more images Jim. Not sure they are up to the task.
Plus I'm not sure where all the images are that I took. Maybe I deleted more than I thought orienting them correctly.
(This may be one to send in for decent images for an overlays.).

You still have my address??? I can not really tell what is there!!!

[Petespockets55]

Yep, still have it.
I'll drop it in the mail Monday. Thanks.
(Sorry, that second set was truly embarrassing! )

[VAB2013]

S'ok Cliff, don't feel embarrassed! Die clashes are not easy to capture and that is a real shiny 2000! Plus, I betcha the sun is shining where you are today

Just give Jim a little while to perform his camera magic on this shiny Lincoln and ya'll get this thing figured out!

[Petespockets55]

S'ok Cliff, don't feel embarrassed! Die clashes are not easy to capture and that is a real shiny 2000! Plus, I betcha the sun is shining where you are today

Just give Jim a little while to perform his camera magic on this shiny Lincoln and ya'll get this thing figured out!

Thanks for the encouragement Viv, because it is a bugger for me right now. Phone is just not consistent.
(Couldn't possibly be operator error.)

[VAB2013]

Thanks for the encouragement Viv, because it is a bugger for me right now. Phone is just not consistent.
(Couldn't possibly be operator error.)

You are welcome Cliff! No, it's not operator error, every coin has a different challenge. Just enough to keep us on our toes and aggravated at times

[jfines69]

Thanks for the encouragement Viv, because it is a bugger for me right now. Phone is just not consistent.
(Couldn't possibly be operator error.)

I know what you mean... That anti vibration software on those fones doesn't work

[jfines69]

Yep, still have it.
I'll drop it in the mail Monday. Thanks.
(Sorry, that second set was truly embarrassing! )

Cool... Looking forward to seeing this one in hand... Hopefully I can get some good pics and we can get this one figured out... Your pics aren't to bad... I just can not tell what is there!!!

[jfines69]

You are not kidding when you said that your pics weren't that good for showing this clash... A very nice obv/rev clash but a strange one also... There are also no abrasions from the mint attempting to remove the clashes at least not that I see... I did a close up overlay and have included a set of close ups with pointers... The pointers are of the easy to see clashes... There is a lot going on that I did not point out as there is not enough space on the pics to put the pointers in If you compare the overlay and the other close ups you will see all the clashes... The dies are misaligned and some what convex otherwise parts of LIBERTY would have show up in the bays as well as columns and bays on the obv!!!