Designer's initials with unfamiliar font

[Maineman750]

Agree with the majority...and that thread needs a grumpy old moderator to clean it up.

[simonm]

I sympathize with you, Simon, about tommy_cent. A frustrating user, unwilling to learn.

I wouldn't necessarily say that particular member is unwilling to learn; some people just get so excited about a potential cool find that they only see what they want to see...Either way, hopefully the evidence of the abraded initials will be enough to at least inform the other members reading that thread.

[Roller]

I think I'm glad I missed the whole thing. I won't read the first page.

[willbrooks]

Mike, that's a slam dunk RDV-006. The curvature of the top half of the G on a RDV-005 is dramatically different than the RDV-006: more vertically elongated in reference to it's width. It's a very distinctive difference. Also, the position of the RDV-007 is WAY farther east of the memorial than the RDV-006, so it is easy to rebuke that one as well for this cent. These worn/abraded/partially filled dies are very common actually. It's a common subject brought up on the forum and easily misconstrued. Positioning of the initials to the memorial and the distance the base of the memorial extends across the base of the G are instrumental in distinguishing the difference when the initials themselves have been altered by die issues. (including the extension of the top curve of the G over the vertical bar, which can also be influenced by abrasion.)

[mustbebob]

I don't think this person is willing to listen to ANYONE who does not completely agree with his own point of view. He is ready to take on all challengers to his way of thinking.
I think people should stop answering his posts at this point.
He has mentioned he will contact Dr Wiles. I suggest we let him do that.

[willbrooks]

I don't think this person is willing to listen to ANYONE who does not completely agree with his own point of view. He is ready to take on all challengers to his way of thinking.
I think people should stop answering his posts at this point.
He has mentioned he will contact Dr Wiles. I suggest we let him do that.

I'm confused. I thought I was responding to a query by Mike Diamond.

edit: oh, I get it now. You were making a response to a completely different forum. Sorry for my confusion.

[mikediamond]

Thanks, all. I know when I'm over my head and at that point I know whom to consult.

[coppy]

I know I'm kinda late on this thread, but here's also a 1990P I found a few months ago showing similar characteristics.

http://lincolncentresource.net/forums/showthread.php?t=28868&highlight=abraded

[jay4202472000]

I don't think this person is willing to listen to ANYONE who does not completely agree with his own point of view. He is ready to take on all challengers to his way of thinking.
I think people should stop answering his posts at this point.
He has mentioned he will contact Dr Wiles. I suggest we let him do that.

You've seen some of his previous threads haven't you Bob. He is definately a hard headed poster, but he seems passionate about the hobby. I learned early that you don't try to buck those that are much more knowledgable than yourself. It will get you nowhere. He will finally figure it out. Learning this was the best thing that happened to me. I only needed one good "scolding" to realize you great people are just trying to help, and every coin you look at isn't going to be a rare one. I hope he comes around. He and another poster over there tries to argue with Simon everytime he responds. I don't know why. Simon is always quick to help and he was the first "friend" I made over there.

[simonm]

You've seen some of his previous threads haven't you Bob. He is definately a hard headed poster, but he seems passionate about the hobby. I learned early that you don't try to buck those that are much more knowledgable than yourself. It will get you nowhere. He will finally figure it out. Learning this was the best thing that happened to me. I only needed one good "scolding" to realize you great people are just trying to help, and every coin you look at isn't going to be a rare one. I hope he comes around. He and another poster over there tries to argue with Simon everytime he responds. I don't know why. Simon is always quick to help and he was the first "friend" I made over there.

Jay, I think this is what a lot of it boils down to. There are a lot of very passionate new collectors out there who want to find "the big one", but because they are new to the collecting scene, their posts of potential "varieties" are based off of very limited knowledge, and they don't realize that the people who have done this for decades have seen the same exact thing posted a few dozen times before. It takes patience and trust to really immerse yourself well in this respectable hobby...two traits that unfortunately not everyone adapts to quickly.

[mikediamond]

One reason tommy_cent is stubborn is that he was actually proven correct one time after everyone (including me) arrived at a contrary opinion based on the photos he provided:

http://www.coinworld.com/articles/die-struck-letters-on-rim-of-coin-are-mistake

[mustbebob]

I don't have a problem with anyone being passionate about the hobby. I encourage standing up for yourself. However, there is a limit though. I can also appreciate the fact he proved himself correct at one time. That does not mean he is correct this time. That is the reason why I suggest we stop feeding the fire until he sends his coin to Dr Wiles for examination. That was his own statement.
We have always insisted that the coin be examined in-hand as most times, you can not make a accurate assessment based on photos alone. In my mind, It makes no sense to continue.