1958 D RPM

[Roller]

By all means go for it Jim.

[makecents]

Was 39 a no go too Roller?

[Roller]

Was 39 a no go too Roller?

MM position looks good but no markers. Again, the CC pic an LDS and no crack on the tail.

[makecents]

MM position looks good but no markers. Again, the CC pic an LDS and no crack on the tail.

I was hoping the tail was "die poop" and just a fluke. You may have a new variety then!

[jfines69]

By all means go for it Jim.

Will do... Thanks... I will let you know what I come up with!!!

[jfines69]

Okay, thank you Jon! Maybe Jim can get permission from Bob to try a couple of overlays for us, whichever ones you and Roller think is the most likely match. Not sure if Jim is busy today, does anyone else know how to do overlays?

If I find a match I will request permission!!!

[jfines69]

I have requested permission to use an image from Copper Coins... I shall update ya'll a little later... In the interim if you would look closely at CCs 001 http://www.coppercoins.com/lincoln/d...&die_state=mds and VVs 001 Stage G http://varietyvista.com/02a%20LC%20R...958DRPM001.htm maybe you will find a marker... More to come!!!

[Petespockets55]

Oh, how the plot thickens!!

[Roller]

I have requested permission to use an image from Copper Coins... I shall update ya'll a little later... In the interim if you would look closely at CCs 001 http://www.coppercoins.com/lincoln/d...&die_state=mds and VVs 001 Stage G http://varietyvista.com/02a%20LC%20R...958DRPM001.htm maybe you will find a marker... More to come!!!

I am mystified Jim. Can't wait to hear where this is going.

[jfines69]

I am mystified Jim. Can't wait to hear where this is going.

You may be surprised

[jfines69]

Oh, how the plot thickens!!

Thicker than grandmas gravy

[jfines69]

With permission from Copper Coins and Bob I have created an overlay that shows a remarkable match... I looked over both CC and VV and the closest I could come was 001... There are cracks that begin showing on CCs EDS sample http://www.coppercoins.com/lincoln/d...&die_state=eds on the shoulder and on VVs http://varietyvista.com/02a%20LC%20R...958DRPM001.htm shoulder and head starting in Stage B... If yours have these cracks and the subsequent cracks that developed then it would be a CC LDS - VV Stage H or much later... If yours do not exhibit these cracks then yours is most likely a new listing... I used the MM location and the split serifs location and angle as an indicator of a match since yours does not exhibit any signs of the 3rd MM... Doing a side by side comparison of CCs EDS/MDS http://www.coppercoins.com/lincoln/d...&die_state=eds http://www.coppercoins.com/lincoln/d...&die_state=mds you will notice the 3rd MM is getting weaker... Compare CC with VVs Stages A thru H http://varietyvista.com/02a%20LC%20R...958DRPM001.htm you will notice how weak the 3rd MM gets... I hope I explained this good... Now we need to know if the cracks are there or if it is a new listing!!!

[makecents]

Wow!! Nice work Jim! That looks really good! So what you're saying is it's either a new listing or an extremely late die stage of 001?

[jfines69]

Wow!! Nice work Jim! That looks really good! So what you're saying is it's either a new listing or an extremely late die stage of 001?

That is it... The 001 is the only one that matched in MM location and split serifs... The only difference I could notice was in die wear!!!

[VAB2013]

Very nice work Jim! That does look like an amazing match! Looking to hear what Roller finds as far as markers, a new listing would be very cool!