2017 P DDO or plating issues?

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  • makecents
    Paid Member

    • Jun 2017
    • 11038

    #1

    2017 P DDO or plating issues?

    I've had this one soaking for weeks and is still in less than great condition. Just want some input on what you think this is. Plating issues or a new DDO?

    Thanks, Jon.
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  • mustbebob
    Lincoln Cent Variety Expert
    • Jul 2008
    • 12758

    #2
    It's a pity that the corrosion is right where the anomaly is. Is there any other areas that show that type of 'doubling?' My first guess would be plating issues.
    Bob Piazza
    Former Lincoln Cent Attributer Coppercoins.com

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    • makecents
      Paid Member

      • Jun 2017
      • 11038

      #3
      No sir, none that is really notable, maybe some very slight thickness. The corrosion was what led me to believe it may just be plating also, it just looked so convincing at first.
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      • VAB2013
        Forum Ambassador
        • Nov 2013
        • 12351

        #4
        Well Jon, that's a bummer and a weird one at the same time. You know we've been seeing what looked like minor doubling in that very spot on many 2017P's when there was nothing else really notable but this does look like it could be notching and distortion. We'll see what Bob says when he comes back.
        Last edited by VAB2013; 12-31-2017, 10:59 AM. Reason: fixed it

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        • jfines69
          Member
          • Jun 2010
          • 28848

          #5
          Very interesting... Are we sure that is not Wexlers 006??? http://doubleddie.com/2318537.html The west arm of the Y looks real thick, the Ts horizontal bar is thicker on the west side vs the east, the upper horizontal is thinned and has the same shape as Wexlers sample (just no hit) there also appears to be some notching on the SE corners of the Es lower horizontal as well as the RTY unless of course my brain just fried which is highly possible
          Jim
          (A.K.A. Elmer Fudd) Be verwy verwy quiet... I'm hunting coins!!! Good Hunting!!!

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          • makecents
            Paid Member

            • Jun 2017
            • 11038

            #6
            Thanks Viv and Jim. I'll get some different pics. I was so invested in the "TRUST" area it didn't spend a lot of time on the rest of the obverse, just kind of skimmed across it.

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            • makecents
              Paid Member

              • Jun 2017
              • 11038

              #7
              I'm not sure Jim. After looking, there are several with the same attribute in "ERTY" but I'm having a hard time finding markers for any of them. I think I might be putting too much time in a coin that may be eat up with zinc rot in a short time anyway. Thank you guys for the help!

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              • jfines69
                Member
                • Jun 2010
                • 28848

                #8
                Originally posted by makecents
                I'm not sure Jim. After looking, there are several with the same attribute in "ERTY" but I'm having a hard time finding markers for any of them. I think I might be putting too much time in a coin that may be eat up with zinc rot in a short time anyway. Thank you guys for the help!
                I'm not sure either and like you said the zinc rot has already taken hold on TRUST!!!
                Jim
                (A.K.A. Elmer Fudd) Be verwy verwy quiet... I'm hunting coins!!! Good Hunting!!!

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                • VAB2013
                  Forum Ambassador
                  • Nov 2013
                  • 12351

                  #9
                  Jon and Jim, last night I ran across a 2017P that looked similar. Everything looked pretty normal except for TRUST and those devices were really thin, like a worn die or a struck through grease. Just wondering if that might be the culprit?

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                  • mustbebob
                    Lincoln Cent Variety Expert
                    • Jul 2008
                    • 12758

                    #10
                    I'm afraid I am thinking it is a plating issue. I just can't see anything else that makes me think it may be a doubled die. Sorry
                    Bob Piazza
                    Former Lincoln Cent Attributer Coppercoins.com

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                    • makecents
                      Paid Member

                      • Jun 2017
                      • 11038

                      #11
                      Thanks Viv and Bob and Jim! I think I'll just chalk this one up to being too far gone and toss it in the ole bank bin. Onward and upward!

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                      • jfines69
                        Member
                        • Jun 2010
                        • 28848

                        #12
                        There is nothing going on with TRUST other than the plating that has led to zinc rot... I caught that part... The die 006 on Wexlers for some reason has just thrown me for a loop
                        Jim
                        (A.K.A. Elmer Fudd) Be verwy verwy quiet... I'm hunting coins!!! Good Hunting!!!

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                        • makecents
                          Paid Member

                          • Jun 2017
                          • 11038

                          #13
                          Originally posted by jfines69
                          There is nothing going on with TRUST other than the plating that has led to zinc rot... I caught that part... The die 006 on Wexlers for some reason has just thrown me for a loop
                          Would you like me to send you the one I think is the 006 to study?

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                          • jfines69
                            Member
                            • Jun 2010
                            • 28848

                            #14
                            Originally posted by makecents
                            Would you like me to send you the one I think is the 006 to study?
                            That actually sounds like a good idea... Do you still have my address???
                            Jim
                            (A.K.A. Elmer Fudd) Be verwy verwy quiet... I'm hunting coins!!! Good Hunting!!!

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                            • makecents
                              Paid Member

                              • Jun 2017
                              • 11038

                              #15
                              Originally posted by jfines69
                              That actually sounds like a good idea... Do you still have my address???
                              Yes sir. I'll send out tomorrow.

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