olympic quarter doubling

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  • jallengomez
    Member
    • Jan 2010
    • 4447

    #31
    Originally posted by DoubleYou
    Raised? I think that's an optical illusion.
    Very well might be. I thought the OP implied that they were raised though.
    “What can be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence.”

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    • Maineman750
      Administrator

      • Apr 2011
      • 12079

      #32
      Originally posted by jallengomez
      Very well might be. I thought the OP implied that they were raised though.

      Yes,I believe he did on the second page of this thread.
      https://www.ebay.com/sch/maineman750...75.m3561.l2562

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      • mikediamond
        Paid Member, Error Expert

        • Jan 2008
        • 1104

        #33
        I assumed the extra letters were incuse. If they're raised, that completely changes the picture. Let's hear what its owner has to say.

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        • Alxlgh
          Member
          • Sep 2010
          • 60

          #34
          they are not raised

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          • jallengomez
            Member
            • Jan 2010
            • 4447

            #35
            Originally posted by Alxlgh
            they are not raised
            That answers that then. Interesting coin.
            “What can be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence.”

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            • jallengomez
              Member
              • Jan 2010
              • 4447

              #36
              Mike,

              I still have a question about the letters being as broad as the original on a counter-clash. Looking at counter-clash examples here, I see some portions of the clashes that also feature lettering that is not as broad as the original. Especially with incuse lettering, it seems that a strike through a fragment would be difficult to impress the full depth of the design into the surface, thus yielding thinner lettering.

              Thank you,
              Jody
              “What can be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence.”

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              • mikediamond
                Paid Member, Error Expert

                • Jan 2008
                • 1104

                #37
                You are correct that some Type II counterclashes feature letters that are narrower than their normal counterparts. The two cents from 1983 would fall into that category. I see your point and concede that these extra letters could conceivably be a Type II counterclash. However, in the absence of a personal examination, I'd still opt for the more conservative scenario of machine doubling.

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                • jallengomez
                  Member
                  • Jan 2010
                  • 4447

                  #38
                  Thanks Mike. I've seen you state before that some MD is collectable and valuable, and I would imagine this would be an example . This is an interesting coin, and I hope the OP will consider sending it in for a examination.

                  Jody
                  “What can be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence.”

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                  • thecentcollector
                    Member
                    • Mar 2010
                    • 1530

                    #39
                    jailen: See this article here, by Mike Diamond, about a peculiar 1994 I found last year. It's ultimately MD, but a collectible kind ;)

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                    • mikediamond
                      Paid Member, Error Expert

                      • Jan 2008
                      • 1104

                      #40
                      Originally posted by jallengomez
                      Thanks Mike. I've seen you state before that some MD is collectable and valuable, and I would imagine this would be an example . This is an interesting coin, and I hope the OP will consider sending it in for a examination.

                      Jody
                      Oh, it's definitely collectible. I have quite an affinity for extreme examples of machine doubling myself.

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                      • mikediamond
                        Paid Member, Error Expert

                        • Jan 2008
                        • 1104

                        #41
                        With the coin in hand I am more confident than ever that this is machine doubling. The full-sized incuse letters show smearing at the bottom (a symptom of die movement). The undersized incuse letters probably result from the raised letters on the die face lifting up out of the letters they just created and landing lightly on the field.

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                        • mikediamond
                          Paid Member, Error Expert

                          • Jan 2008
                          • 1104

                          #42
                          The Collector's Clearinghouse column on this coin has now been posted online: www.lincolncentresource.net/forums/showthread.php?t=17470&page=3

                          Regrettably, the coin was torn from its envelope and lost while in transit. A sober reminder that self-addressed stamped envelopes (or any envelope) should be sturdy enough to resist the abuses of postal processing.

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                          • kloccwork419
                            Banned
                            • Sep 2008
                            • 6800

                            #43
                            Thats a link right back to this thread.

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                            • mikediamond
                              Paid Member, Error Expert

                              • Jan 2008
                              • 1104

                              #44
                              Oops. Here's the correct link: http://www.coinworld.com/articles/hi...incuse-machin/

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                              • simonm
                                Member
                                • Sep 2010
                                • 6398

                                #45
                                Thanks for the update. Sorry to hear the coin was lost...even though it was must MD it was still a very interesting coin...
                                My old coin album.

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