1984 ddo-001 grade

[Maineman750]

Thanks for the link Roger. The part that is bothering me right now is that is admits that it contains "abrasives" that clean "without scratching." That seems contradictory to me.

I think that explains the fine scratches we see in the photos.You probably can't see them without a loupe.

[jcuve]

Someone with a scope should try it out on a normal coin; before and then after. It might work with rubbing, maybe just left on the surface for a few minutes?

Maybe Thad will chime in on this thread...

[pennies4pennies]

Here it is :http://www.homekeepingshop.com/shadazzle/

That's not what I got. What I saw was in a 1 gallon plastic container. True it was water premixed. Like almost milky white. But I must say it does have the same components.
I never saw one of those containers. Looks like that's sold here in the USA. The plant might buy direct from the main source in France in bulk. But they told me it was like $400 a gallon. Scratching my head on this.

It takes a couple days to do what I do. It took me about a month to get it down. If you try and do it in one step the coin will look like polished. You have to be very easy taking off the stains and brown coating. I use q tips in tight spots and very little rubbing. If it's the same stuff then do a lot of practice on junk coins. Be very careful.

[Maineman750]

Frank,it has the same ingredients and the same wording you gave us,plus it's from France.It may look different in bulk,but I'll bet it is the same stuff.

[pennies4pennies]

Frank,it has the same ingredients and the same wording you gave us,plus it's from France.It may look different in bulk,but I'll bet it is the same stuff.

You might be right there. Somebody here might buy bulk and have it put into there own container. Very possible. I do know it takes a lot of practice to get it down with out a polish look. I do soak my coins first with ivory dish soap and remove the dirt.
If you don't have the heavy dirt removed it will cause scratches. After soaking for a couple of days I then remove the dirt then I soak the coin in the mix for about 4 hrs, some times more or less. Then I wash the coin off with distill water. I then pat dry with a cloth towel (like a bath towel). Next I use a very soft cloth and pat the solution on the coin. NOT TRYING TO RUB at all. I wash the coin again with distill water. Then keep doing the same thing to I get what I am happy with. I also use a Q tip for tight spots. Watch, because rubbing will cause a polish look. Take your time and it does take a lot of practice to get it down. Like I said it took me about a month before I could get it down to were I was happy. Now I have been doing this for awhile so you can get the same look on your coins like me but it takes time. DO NOT RUSH THIS!!!!.

[Maineman750]

Frank, I used to get Rain-X in a plain white bottle from Fairchild Aircraft...big companies just get bulk stuff like that sometimes,that's all.
Thanks for all the info, but I'd still like to see some testing like Jason suggested..microscopic pics,etc.

[pennies4pennies]

I agree with you 100%. Don't wont to see coins get damage. I don't have the time or good scopes to take pictures as you go. I could try. With what I have step by step. But with this stuff I don't know. Maybe I'll buy some to try and see if it works the same. LOL if nothing else the wife can use it for cleaning.

[jallengomez]

The plant might buy direct from the main source in France in bulk. But they told me it was like $400 a gallon. Scratching my head on this.

I think that's just a matter of it being government. When you're the government, why buy something for $20 when you can create so much red tape that it cost you $400?

[Maineman750]

Well, at the discount price for buying more than 4 tubs,it still comes out to $605 a gallon.That $400 doesn't sound too far off to me.

[jallengomez]

Thanks Maine! I didn't even do the calculations to see what the per gallon total would be.

[Maineman750]

Thanks Maine! I didn't even do the calculations to see what the per gallon total would be.

But I do I agree tht I could probably get it for $300 knowing our government

[Scott99]

Not to nitpick... but...

1 Tub = 10.58 oz
1 Gallon = 128 oz

So the discounted price for 1 gallon of Shadazzle = $120.98

[Maineman750]

Not to nitpick... but...

1 Tub = 10.58 oz
1 Gallon = 128 oz

So the discounted price for 1 gallon of Shadazzle = $120.98

Oops...I did a 5 gallon bucket...I was brewing 5 gallons of beer today and I guess it stuck in my head...and I didn't drink any.....promise Now I'm with Jody, the government price sounds about right.

[pennies4pennies]

Just a note. I just sent in the coin to ANACS today. Lets see what happens. Also I just contacted the main supple company of Shadazzle. The site shown is a sublet site. There is many different sites like this one. They get there supplies in small containers. They don't sell in 1gallon or 5 gallon containers. The main company in France does. If this is the same stuff I would think they order from France or a importer. They also don't sell 1 gallon but they do sell in 5 liter containers from what I am told. Maybe the supply guy got it mixed up. It does not come in a liquid forum just powder. What I have is mix but maybe they did that at the plant. Anyway I order a couple containers of this Shadazzle to see what it does. I will let you know how it works. Maybe some pictures as I go.
Frank

[pennies4pennies]

Up date. I just heard from ANACS. The coin is being slab as of being clean. I order some of this shadazzle and still haven't receive any. I emailed the site and waiting on reply. If this is the same stuff then, it doesn't work as far as ANACS grading. It did bring a MS grade. I also sent in my 1909 VDB DDO-001 and that is a MS-62, no problem coin. Now if they can just finish the grades on the other coins sent in for the contest. Just passing on the results for the 1984.