Error Die Crack | 1992 D spider web a day late

[makecents]

Just wanted to see if anyone had seen this before. I checked all types of cracks on Cuds On Coins and came up empty. I used a toothpick and they are solid copper underneath. Thanks for looking, Jon.

[VAB2013]

Never seen anything like that Jon. It really does look like a spider web! How bizarre! If the anomaly is cut into the coin, I would think PSD but what could make such a pattern? If it's raised... then I would think die cracks, but still what a weird pattern!

[Roller]

It cannot be psd in that it only affects the incuse devices which would be the raised devices on the die. It is some kid of die damage, possibly abrasion marks, me thinks.

[makecents]

Never seen anything like that Jon. It really does look like a spider web! How bizarre! If the anomaly is cut into the coin, I would think PSD but what could make such a pattern? If it's raised... then I would think die cracks, but still what a weird pattern!

Thanks Viv!! Hope to get some feedback on this. It's really odd looking and figured there was something that JC had but no luck. I had never looked at shattered dies until this evening on his site and thought that may be what it was but not... I might send to him and see what he thinks.

[makecents]

It cannot be psd in that it only affects the incuse devices which would be the raised devices on the die. It is some kid of die damage, possibly abrasion marks, me thinks.

I might agree with that but there is no direction or consistency to it Roller. Usually when there are polishing lines they line up somewhat. It is only in the fields too not on the devices. I'm a little perplexed by this one with nothing to compare.

[Petespockets55]

Really neat looking Jon.
Wonder if the rollers could do this as they roll the planchet stock to the correct thickness if the plating didn't adhere to the zinc core properly. (Or are the planchets rolled and cut out before the plating process?)

It reminds me of paint on a wall that has gotten water behind it and looks like it is melting down the wall.

[VAB2013]

Thanks Viv!! Hope to get some feedback on this. It's really odd looking and figured there was something that JC had but no luck. I had never looked at shattered dies until this evening on his site and thought that may be what it was but not... I might send to him and see what he thinks.

You're welcome Jon! I think sending it to JC is a great idea! This is a tough one!

[Maineman750]

It could easily be PSD....something as simple as a person with a scribe tool trying to be artistic

[makecents]

It could easily be PSD....something as simple as a person with a scribe tool trying to be artistic

I thought about that Roger but as Roller said it is not on the devises. Do you think JC would be able to tell?

[Maineman750]

I thought about that Roger but as Roller said it is not on the devises. Do you think JC would be able to tell?

I was puzzled by Roller's remark....if a person was doing this purposely.....why couldn't they just scribe between the devices ? Just like a coloring book....stay between the lines...pretty easy when they're raised. As for JC....it wouldn't hurt to ask him.

[GrumpyEd]

It's a mystery, I don't think a human could get it that close to the raised elements, not sure if it was on the die or something strange that happened to the coin. A mystery to me

[Maineman750]

Another thing I've noticed that some of us seem to have missed....the lines do go across some of the devices...take a look at S and OF
And the flat parts of the coin are called "fields".

[makecents]

Really neat looking Jon.
Wonder if the rollers could do this as they roll the planchet stock to the correct thickness if the plating didn't adhere to the zinc core properly. (Or are the planchets rolled and cut out before the plating process?)

It reminds me of paint on a wall that has gotten water behind it and looks like it is melting down the wall.

I tend to get ahead of myself when jumping into something new Cliff, as I have with Lincoln cents. I tried to get an understanding of how the zinc cents are made by bopping around on the web last night and this morning. I found finding this information tougher than expected. I assume that there are large sheets of zinc that the blanks are punched out of and then the plating applied after. I also don't know when the actual design is stamped, before or after the plating. All of these things would help me understand more as to how something like this could happen. I hate to be so ignorant but could not find anything to explain this process.

[Petespockets55]

Another thing I've noticed that some of us seem to have missed....the lines do go across some of the devices...take a look at S and OF
And the flat parts of the coin are called "fields".

I noticed but was waiting to see what the consensus was on them.
Almost all the letters have light lines across them.
If it was unintentional PSD I don't think it would be strong between the devices (fields) and then weak on top of them.
If it was intentional, avoiding the tops of all devices would be crucial to complete the "Tomfoolery".

If the lines were on the plating before being struck, the lines might carry through to be barely visible on top of the devices. Also if a tool were used to gouge the lines (plowing a field comes to mind) into the coin, the edges of the "furrow" would be slightly raised from being gouged and pushed at the same time.
(Another thing the cracks and lines looks similar to is old lead based paint that has cracks like an alligator.)
JMHO
Link to image https://www.alleghenyfront.org/if-le...ill-a-problem/ .

[Maineman750]

The planchets are plated after they are cut into circles...otherwise the edges wouldn't be plated.